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Joker
10 Jun 2018  #871

Yet Trump believes he can pardon himself...

It would be political suicide, but he can legally do it.

If you're going to continue living in our country. Perhaps, you should educate yourself first before you blindly parrot CNNs daily headlines.

johnny reb
10 Jun 2018  #872

Accepting a presidential pardon requires an admission of guilt.

I did know Trump admitted to being guilty of anything.
Wait, guilty of WHAT ?
He hasn't been convicted of anything that I know of.
You keep talking 'pardoned', pardoned from what ?
Crooked Hillary is the one that got a pardon from James Comey.
Now that Comey is under investigation for breaking the law to do it, Crooked Hillary's pardon will be nullified and she should get convicted.

Joker
10 Jun 2018  #873

You keep talking 'pardoned', pardoned from what ?

Its another one of his bogus msm talking points he keeps parroting over and over because he doesn't have any facts to support his claims.

The desperation coming from the left has become crystal clear as we watch them grasping for straws for anything at all to undermine our President.

Now that Comey is under investigation for breaking the law to do it, Crooked Hillary's pardon will be nullified and she should get convicted.

The walls are beginning to close in on these traitors:)

Lyzko
10 Jun 2018  #874

Difference between Carter and Trump (or certainly Reagan) is that the latter embodied the "Don't do, delegate!" -strategy of US business, whereas Carter DIDN'T keep banker's hours and was proud of his sixteen-hour days and almost paranoically hands on approach to the presidency.

His failure was not disloyal staff but biting off more than he could possibly chew.

@Johnny and Dirk,

America's one big friggin' crap shoot. If you can screw the other guy over with impunity and without conscience, then this is your type of country.

Tacitus
10 Jun 2018  #875

Another difference is that Carter spent most of his life making the planet a better place. His foundation is close to eradicating a particulary nasty parasite.

bbc.com/news/amp/health-35484933

Has Ttump ever done something similar with the enornous ressources he inherited?

Joker
10 Jun 2018  #876

His failure was not disloyal staff but biting off more than he could possibly chew.

Here's a whole list of Carters blunders, too many!

americanthinker.com/articles/2008/04/jimmy_carter_disgraced_for_man.html

Just reading this brings back the memories on how awful he was as a President.

I take back what I said about Obozo and return Carter to the position of the worst American President in our history.

Another difference is that Carter spent most of his life making the planet a better place

He is a good man and a humanitarian, but a lousy politician.

johnny reb
10 Jun 2018  #877

whereas Carter DIDN'T keep banker's hours and was proud of his sixteen-hour days

Trump just finish a couple of 20 hour days at the G6 plus 1 summit and now is in Singapore to meet with Kim the very next day.

Do you really want to compare Trumps schedule with president Peanuts schedule. lol

Then the rest of your tax break will fly out the window.

More projecting of "I hate Trump" rhetoric with what "if's".
You keep crying how only the red states and the 1% are getting rich off the tax breaks you hypocrite.
The economy is booming because of tax breaks and you are still bad mouthing Trump.
Just what the hell do you want my blind son.

That handful of dollars is already gone

Color yourself stupid.
Take a look at your 401k when obozo left office and what it is now. duh !
If you are so unhappy with that then I think you should take all that money that your 401k as increased by mega since Trump has been in office and give it back.

No matter what Trump does for you it will still be another mini meltdown of "I hate Trump." (sigh)
You just can't stand the fact of how bad Trump is making the Liberals look by being successful and making America Great Again !
Trump has pulled your Liberal loser rug out from under you so not even your safe rooms are safe anymore. Boo hoo hoo

Dirk diggler
10 Jun 2018  #878

Carter

And he wrote an excellent book titled peace not apartheid which really gave the zionists a big bloody hemorrhoid. That's why I love the us - free speech

But as a president he suuuuucked.

If you can screw the other guy over with impunity and without conscience, then this is your type of country.

That's because in order for one to win, another must lose or at the very least not win as much. You think That's any different from any other capitalist democracy? Even the most equal country has a social and economic hierarchy.

I take back what I said about Obozo and return Carter to the position of the worst American President in our history.

Idk about that... Carter never tripled the debt, gave disability handouts by the millions, went on a spending spree with green programs that only enriched the chinese... but they were both punked by foreign powers. With Obama just about everyone while with Carter mainly iran

Lyzko
10 Jun 2018  #879

Trump, surrounded by every conceivable luxury there is, isn't the same as a man who rolls up his shirtsleeves, gave the impression of work, and looked exhausted by the end of the day.

Don't hold Trump up as any example to the country he is threatening to serve and which we all (except the already mega rich) are cursed to be served by, the same man

who once proudly told the press during his campaign that he'd happily withhold payment of services rendered to any workman who did, in his opinion, a "poor" job!!!

The working American's lot was always a hard one, until Roosevelt, while the shirking man's lot, or should I say fortune, was never (or rarely) on a par with what they delivered.

Again, "Don't do, delegate!", fits Trump to a Model-T.

johnny reb
10 Jun 2018  #880

Again, "Don't do, delegate!", fits Trump

And, "You didn't build that, someone else did" fits odumbo.
Just like, "I hate Trump" fits you to a model "A".
Trump will go down as the best president in your life time regardless how many meltdowns of HATE you have for him.

Dirk diggler
10 Jun 2018  #881

Trump, surrounded by every conceivable luxury there is,

So? He has the right to spend his money on whatever he wants.

isn't the same as a man who rolls up his shirtsleeves, gave the impression of work, and looked exhausted by the end of the day.

Yes those people work hard and look exhausted are those who never figured out how to work smart, which involves a different kind (Imo a far worse) exhaustion

The working American's lot was always a hard one

Since ancient times merchants, traders, leaders etc were always better off than a physical worker, even though the merchant or trader doesnt create anything, they don't add to wealth they merely transfer it and take some off the top.

Dirk diggler
10 Jun 2018  #882

Model-T.

model "A".

Can we stop insulting Mr Henry Ford, one of the greatest and most outspoken Americans of all time?

johnny reb
10 Jun 2018  #883

Screw Henry, he wants a shrine built for his little god Roosevelt.
(some out dated has been president from a 100 years ago or so.)

Lyzko
11 Jun 2018  #884

....and most notorious anti-Semites (promulgator of "The Protocalls of the Elders of Zion"), or did we conveniently forget that factoid?:-)

Dirk, I'm not referring to those who do physical labor, although Jefferson once wrote that men who labor in the earth are truly the chosen people by G-d, but instead to anyone who actually gets up every day and puts in an honest days work, either by dint of their skill or stamina, be they nurses, teachers, professors, doctors, lawyers or average office workers!

Kindly don't conflate the issue.

Dirk diggler
11 Jun 2018  #885

but instead to anyone who actually gets up every day and puts in an honest days work,

Oh and trump doesn't? He made his money the legal way too. Omly difference is he was smart enough to use all the tools at his disposal whether they be family connections, tax laws, the terrible state of NYC in the 70s and 80s, politics, media, etc.

Lyzko
11 Jun 2018  #886

You said it all right there in your first sentence, pal!. Without ol' Freddy, big Daddykins, he'd more than likely have already landed in the slammer as a middle teen for slugging a teacher, being a hellion with local shopkeepers near where he lived in Queens and gettin' away with it 'cuz the locals were afraid of Fred Trump.

Come off it, Dirk! Without those conections with which he was raised, The Donald'd be lucky if he could have worked as a life guard somewhere on the Island. Only thing he can boast, as far as I can see, is a relatively handsome upper body and modestly good-looking, W.A.S.P face.

Don't you see the psychological importance of the "right impression"?? He makes a bad one, unpresidential, low-level and raw.
One expects a certain presidential behavior from the supposed leader of the Free World. Meanwhile, he's only free to make an ever lovin' fool of himself....and the country.

Dirk diggler
11 Jun 2018  #887

Yes his dads connections helped him get whete he is. Absolutely. However it was up to trump to use those connections effectively which he did and his other sibilings did not. Theres plenty of people who come from wealthy connected families and not only dont use them to get either ahead but even **** up the work that their family had accomplished. I.e. Paris Hilton. She had every opportunity to get involved in the business and grow it more. Instead she decided to be a skank and embarrass her family.

Well its working for him... and it has for decades.. to the point where he won the election for the us presidency
Obama was 'presidential' and what did it get him and the us? Everyone punked him and did whatever they felt like to the us. Everyone knew he was a weakling especislly the Chinese and Putin. Thats why they treated him left and right. A strong country needs a strong leader - bully, an alpha gorilla otherwise you have others taking advantage of your weakness.

Even with bush he was no genius but at least under his.tenure the russians and Chinese werent ******* with the us till a weakling like Obama came along.

cms neuf
11 Jun 2018  #888

But the rest of the world does not interpret this as strength but as erratic idiocy, possibly mental illness. Reagan and Eisenhower were respected as strong leaders.

It will take the US years to recover from this. Whats also clear is that if US voters can elect this guy then they can elect other idiots - so other countries know they can no longer rely on the US

Dirk diggler
11 Jun 2018  #889

That's the whole point. Its time the world stop relying on the us as their milk cow and ripping us off economically, militarily, politically...

That was the whole point of America first - **** what the others think

TheOther
11 Jun 2018  #890

Its time the world stop relying on the us as their milk cow and ripping us off economically

The US has been the richest country on Earth since the end of WW2, and it still is. That doesn't look as if America has been taken advantage of, so what are you talking about? Despite: the average tariff on global imported goods in the US is 1.6%, the EU has the same rate, Japan has 1.4% and Canada has 0.8%. Hardly what I would call the USA being ripped off. The trade deficit has other reasons. Trump and his cronies are lying again, quelle surprise.

militarily

The US has the ambition to be a global power. As such you have to pay a price. Stationing troops in Europe and elsewhere is first and foremost in the strategic interest of America; the protection of the countries where these bases are located is simply a side effect. We have land and sub based nukes that could destroy the world several times over. Why then do we need boots on the ground? That's right: because it's in the strategic interest of the United States. So we'll pay for it.

**** what the others think

That kind of attitude will bite us in the ass very soon.

johnny reb
11 Jun 2018  #891

That was the whole point of America first - **** what the others think

BINGO !
The Democrats still think they are in charge and running their failed show is what the problem is.
Trump has been success after success steam rolling making the Democrats look incompetent.
The Liberals will do anything and everything to undermine Trumps success from Fake News to calling for an impeachment.
Trump is blatantly showing the Liberals that their Socialistic way DOES NOT WORK in a democracy and that our way does work and work well.

The Liberals are scared **** less of Trump being successful because it makes them look very bad.
They can't let Trump be successful or the Socialist Liberals are DONE !
Once they realize that Crooked Hillary lost, they are no longer in charge and nobody cares what they think as Teflon Trump keep right on marching forward to put America First and making America Great Again.

It's our turn Lyzko, we suffered through your 8 year turn that was a disaster destroying America so it is now your turn to suffer through our 8 year turn of success,

and there you stand stomping your feet having a meltdown with big tears running down your face because you don't think we shouldn't get a turn because you want to be in control.

Go to your safe room and have a cookie and think about it.
Thank God Almighty that Crooked Hillary lost.
Lock her up.

Trump 2020 !

Dirk diggler
11 Jun 2018  #892

Hardly what I would call the USA being ripped off.

A 270% tariff on dairy is most certainly being ripped off... and that is a fact, not a 'trump lie

The trade deficit has other reasons.

I agree tariffs are just one of many reasons for the deficit. In any case its high time for the us to start changing the deficits in our favor, not foreign countries.

And despite a few of the eu countries and ca nada complaining about trump, they were begging trump for the us not to leave the g7 when threatened to pull the us out.

Stationing troops in Europe and elsewhere is first and foremost in the strategic interest of Americ

Its part of NATO - most of which countries have not been paying their fare share. If I were trump is pull out.troops from every nato member who isn't paying their fair share and redeploy them to countries that are, like poland.

People like trudaeu and macron just can't hang with trump. They are the epitome of beta soy boys. So no wonder theyre scared of trump.

Lyzko
11 Jun 2018  #893

One man's destruction is another man's salvation.

Obama made plenty of mistakes, yet who died and made Trump perfect?

Dirk diggler
11 Jun 2018  #894

Yes not perfect but even with all of his mistakes hes head and shoulders better than Obama. He'll bush and Clinton were better than Obama

Atleast they didn't triple the debt, spend hundreds of billions on failed green energy programs which only enriched the Chinese and allowed every country in the world to punk us.

TheOther
11 Jun 2018  #895

A 270% tariff on dairy is most certainly being ripped off... and that is a fact, not a 'trump lie

Well, at first glance it looks like a rip-off, but you and I both know that it's not. When Canada has average import tariffs of 0.8% across the board, and the U.S. has 1.6%, then this is an advantage for America. The trade balance between both countries reflects that somewhat. Now Trump wants to put tariffs on car imports. American car makers manufacture in Canada for the US market. Want to punish your own companies?

Its part of NATO - most of which countries have not been paying their fare share.

How about the bases in Japan and South Korea? They would love to see our tail lights rather today than tomorrow. Many U.S. bases in Europe are not exclusively NATO. Just look at the Ramstein Air Base in Germany for example.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramstein_Air_Base

we suffered through your 8 year turn that was a disaster destroying America

I heard the American suffering was particularly bad in Jamaica, where one of our members claims to have a vacation home... :)

Tacitus
11 Jun 2018  #896

Ramstein in particular is used as logistic hub for all American deployments in Africa and Middle East. Wounded soldiers from Afghanistan and Iraq are treated there, Drone strikes et al are directed from there and so on. The USA pays very little for the actual defence of Europe. Most soldiers are stationed either at home or in Asia, and so are their fleets.

@Dirk diggler

Atleast they didn't triple the debt, spend hundreds of billions on failed gree

Bush did much worse financially. The USA lost 1tn and thousands of lives during the Iraq war. You can't reasonably claim that Obama was a bigger failure than him.

Dirk diggler
11 Jun 2018  #897

You can't reasonably claim that Obama was a bigger failure than him.

Oh i absolutely can say obama was far worse than obama. For onr, Bush doubled the debt, Obama took that debt and tripled it still. And by being a total b1tch in the international arena he basically allowed everyone to walk all over the us. Remember the bogus $500 million program that only trained some dozen 'moderate' rebels? Only for somehow isis and al nusra to suddenly have huge stocks of TOW missles.... how about when he called isis 'junior varsity' only for them to capture Iraq's second largest city? And how about the billions he spend on green energy which were utter failures like fisker auto which is now bankrupt and a123 battery which only the Chinese profited from. And don't forget Bengazi which he blamed on a video. He was one failure after another after another. No wonder his hair turned totally gray after 8 years.

Bush was bad, but Obama was just straight up terrible..he belonged teaching philosophy or some bullsh1t gender studies class or leading diversity trainings, not leading the us... the dude even salutes us soldiers with a coffee cup.. pathetic..

The USA pays very little for the actual defence of Europe.

Good then hopefully they won't complain once trump packs up and moves them elsewhere

Want to punish your own companies?

Absolutely. Bring them back so theyre adding to our gdp, not Canada's.

Well, at first glance it looks like a rip-off, but you and I both know that it's not.

270% on dairy is a rip off no matter how you look at it.

And no WTO data shows 3.1% not .8%

TheOther
11 Jun 2018  #898

270% on dairy is a rip off no matter how you look at it.

Relax. Dairy was only about 0.2 percent of the total value of goods exported to Canada in 2017.

And no WTO data shows 3.1% not .8%

The World Bank says 0.8% - weighted mean

data.worldbank.org/indicator/TM.TAX.MRCH.WM.AR.ZS

Dirk diggler
11 Jun 2018  #899

Dairy was only about 0.2 percent of the total value of goods exported to Canada in 2017.

From us alone or all goods? Well if its triple the price no wonder....

Tit for tat. For a long time countries had these tariffs against us restricting the demand for our exports. Its time we react and do the same to their exports. Seeing as us economy is about 12x larger than Canada's, tariffs will hurt them much more than theyll hurt us. Its time we either have equal tariffs or none at all.

TheOther
11 Jun 2018  #900

From us alone or all goods?

I think it was the U.S. alone.

Tit for tat.

Okay, let's get rid of the Farm Bill then to level the playing field for the Canadians. Can't do that because it hurts Trump's voter base? That's what I thought... :)


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