Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 10

Even if the one threatening the life of your own brother? What would you do for the life of your brother or sister?


Love is utterly emotional thing. Who knows what one can do for a spark of a true love, when see that bad people drugged his woman (a mother of his children), manipulated her and in such a state they taking her away from him for good. For a true love, many true man would kill. Divorce or no divorce. Especially in this situation as just described.

EU and NATO just thought they can make it and escape. They miscalculated.

In this story, woman itself is harmed. Loved but harmed. Set on harms way by bad people.

So, at one moment, after first round, we all know it, man would have his woman. Harmed. And that is how we know the end of the story. Man, if true man, would seek revenge. His wrath would take care of those who harmed his beloved woman and him. He would make certain that bad people are punished and their maneuverable space for future evil is reduced.

See, EU and NATO leading powers knows it.

Keeping people inside a sick system by force is "love"? Uh-oh.

Look, it does not metter whether i understand principles of proxy wars or not. You can give me some credits of being at least as educated as you think you are. Here is what top Russian officials directly and unequivocally are telling Macron - "we will kill all French solders if they appear in the Ukraine". Isn't it a clear message? The same will happen with all polish soldiers.

Poles should not think that they can take western piece of former country Ukraine for themselves.

Why then Poland stays within EU and NATO? Or, why Poland recognizes papacy?

probably to spite you - I can see no other sensible reason

How old are you, may i ask? Have you lived those times, or your thoughts are just theoretical based on western propaganda?

please, link me to a source (other than Russian) in English that says that Poland claims any Ukrainian territory

Oh please no....we all know that taking back Kresy is polish national fixation... do not deceive yourselves.

yeah, we all know that Russians think that way (Edit: and that, for example, Belarusian regime is using such a claim as a scare to control their people) - feel free to find a source in English to back it up - or any official Polish document that says so

You are all wrong. Why would we need poor, underdeveloped lands inhabited by hostile Bandera worshippers? You take them and enjoy the lovely vipers' nest. :)

Polish Kresy are gone, just like Serbian Kosovo is gone - primitive, barbarian people moved in there and the older civilisation had to move out. A bit like Arabs taking over Egypt, Vandals occupying Rome etc.

Sort of off-topic to the rest of the discussion... but I've been thinking the last day or two about nuclear tests.

I'm no specialist, and certainly not very familiar with the history, but as I understand - Russia and the US had carried out enough live tests that additional ones were deemed not really necessary. In addition, the development of supercomputers, had allowed physicists to model nuclear explosions without having to actually perform them.

Nowadays, nobody seems to treat nuclear weapons seriously - witness this forum.

Russia is trying to wake people up to the reality of a potentially disastrous escalation, and these latest announced nuclear exercises are intended as a sobering signal. However, I'm sure if even people in the Pentagon and State Department make a cold-headed appraisal of these moves, most civilian Westerners will just ignore it/dismiss it.

So what I've been playing around with in my head, is how the West would react to a live nuclear test?

Not the use of a tactical nuclear weapon somewhere in Eastern Ukraine, but just at some test site beyond the Arctic Circle.

Would the first live nuclear explosion performed by Russia since the 1960s have any effect of waking people up?

Making CDL part of Russia was beyond brilliant and made their future non-negotiable. Pure genius...

You, Russia haters, can foam, scream, jump, and call Putin names all you want all day long if it gives pleasure...but it won't change the fact that CDL will never belong to Ukraine - just as those 500,000 dead Ukrainians will never be resurrected.

I wrote the above to help you with your RDS and because deep down I feel sorry for stupid people.

waking people up to what? to the aggressiveness and alleged unpredictabily of the Russian regime (or Russians in general)?

That Russia feels like it has increasingly less to lose by flipping over the table and breaking the chess pieces.

People make jokes about nukes that don't fly, or don't explode.

Others make jokes in the tradition of, "bring it on already".

I'm all for jokes, but at the end of the day these are terrible weapons that we had managed not to use for decades - and now their use is being discussed daily.

Still, people in the West think... the Russians are just bluffing. "Even they are not that crazy".

It's kind of a comic situation.

What does Russia have to do to make people understand that the time for jokes is running out?

Kind of an interesting problem. That's why I thought maybe a live test could achieve the effect that all the rhetoric could not?

No. To the predictability of the consequences of NATO expansion.

What the fvck did the warmongers think Russia would do in response to NATO at Russia's doorstep? Say hi, how about some tea or would you prefer Stolichnaya?

That is exactly what Vatican in coordination with its fist, the Germany, did to us Slavs. Created banderists.

Non of us needs them. That is why, among other reasons, Russia has such a slow tactics in advance there. To get rid of trash. This way or another. Then, if Russians are Russians, they would take care of the Vatican and Germany. If God is good to us Serbians, we would help them. For sure, Poles, too.

I drink tea daily and I avoid alcohol, your point?


so, yeah, warmongers - which war with Russia did they actually start?

Right, right... To push all these elements out of russian ukraine to Poland.

I mean... they ended up being right about tanks, ATGMS, artillery, etc. That is, they did sort of call our bluff, and demonstrated that our red lines were bullsh*t.

But the sh*t happening recently is just out of this world. Macron saying he will fight Russia, if he sees that Ukraine is at risk of collapse? British ministers gleefully explaining that the weapons they handed over in the latest transfer are authorized for strikes against Russia?

Have these people lost track of the plot? This is not a "proxy war", this is you actively entering direct confrontation with us.

What do you want us to do?

When there was a rumor a couple years ago that Russia was paying the Taliban for each dead American there was such wild hoopla. This is for context.

In Afghanistan and Vietnam we never sent boots on the ground (at least offficially), and we certainly never told the Vietnamese - "It's okay if you commit terrorist acts in America".

People don't appreciate how dangerously "new" these events are.

Russia's objective number one is to kill. Once that is done, the rest is easy.
Memo to Russia haters: It's not about kilometers. It's about corpses.


The current one. One does not need to start shooting to start a war. See Israel in 1967 and 1973.

russia is a psychotic death cult.... that's what I've been saying.... it has nothing to offer the world or Ukraine and is pouting like a cranky infant that's been given too many cookies and now has a tummy ache....


Withdraw from Ukraine....., Vladimir, no one's buying your 'one of the good ones' act.

The Russian army is in Russia. It's the UA that is the aggressor against the wishes of the D and L citizens. Ask them if you don't believe me.

Honestly think a nice big mushroom cloud in 4K resolution and uploaded to YouTube is what these people need to sober up.

Maybe this will make a Maciej and a Matthew stop treating this war as a football match.

I'm not well versed in wars of or against Israel, so please explain

These are not jokes.

We really do sh*t on your nukes, Bobi. I am at a loss here about how to get it across to you, so that you understand without taking it as some sort of a joke (and what sort of a sick joke would that be? wtf?).

There are worse things than death. We will not succumb to your whiny, homosexual threats. So, yeah, bring it on already or shut the f*ck up, b*tches.

We sh*t on your nukes.

You see... hahaha. How do you perform diplomacy with such people?

To move them out and/or to give enough time to banderists to die in battle.

To those two azholes, just as the PF morons, it's just another video game for the mentally retarded boys because they don't participate in the horrors.

That's why it is so easy to sell wars to the Western armchair warriors.
I am surprised by the Poles. They should know better...


Your post is confusing. Does "we" include you?

You mean RuSSia is suicidal? Why? Does being RuSSia suck this much? lol RuSSians are not happy with their lives to that extent?? :(


They were being "discussed daily" during Cold War too. 🙄


Yes, it is comical that on one hand you want to be viewed as crazy and suicidal and on the other hand you complain that RuSSia isn't being respected and considered a normal country, etc. :)))


Oh, so you would like to be able to invade other countries without getting attacked in return? :D Do you even realise how messed up this is?