Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 13

Making an analogy, if someone steals my money, I would want my money back. If it would be too risky and expensive to get my money back, maybe I would cut my loses and assume "too bad, I lost" but if a thug with 20 felonies in his record, that broke every peace deal that I had with him, picked protection money and proceeded to stole my businesses anyway, demanding that I will be defenseless and must not report his criminal actions to the police, I would fight him with everything I have, even if I am probably going to die. Or I'd sell everything that I won and move.

Trusting his words is tantamount to a suicide.

And a Thug with 20 felonies in his record is more trustworthy than putin.

If there is such a thing as self-determination, CDL is Russia now.

For now, that's it. But as Mr. Putin says - "Russia's borders don't end anywhere."

Russia is wherever people have Russia in their heart.

That's not how it works. Russia is where the Russian army is ready to kill trespassers.

You do kill trespassers, don't you?

As opposed to Russia, the US is on the map but without borders and official language it doesn't exist as a sovereign country - just like an abandoned house where any bum can walk in, sleep and shlt is not a home.

I like this definition too. We need the Russian army in more places.

F16's arrived in Ukraine. Wester press is now downplaying how effective they may be in the war, when before, they were saying it could be a big advantage. Funny how these stories continue to evolve isnt it?

Funny how you seem to take mainstream media accounts at face value....

Military help for Ukraine follows the prinicple: the earlier the better but feckless western fvkkwit leaders like Biden and Scholz are determined to trickle out resources at a snail's pace to avoid 'escalation.

The absolutely hilarious (in a black humor sense) aspect of this is that it's done out of concern for russia and try to give it a soft post-war landing.... time and time again russia would just collapse without western support and this never makes russians think that maybe the west is onto something... it just makes them hate the west all the more.....

russia is essentially a western charity case

How many? If it's a squadron or two, it won't make much difference.

...but it checks that we have to do something box.

Six by the end of summer, 20 by the end of the year.

I don't recall those "leaders" asking us if we wanted to be involved in another Euro war.

Wow! A game changer indeed! *rolls eyes*

Europe's only enemy is Russia. This is at least what I am told.

If that's the case, Europe should send everything it has to Ukraine, including its armies. A historic oppo to finish the evil empire off, cut it up, and have a jolly good time with Russia's vast resources.

So how about it, my brave Euros...Show the unwashed Americans how it can be done quickly and without killing any civilians.

BTW...Please don't give me any crap about Article 5. If you, damn parasites, don't invoke it, it doesn't exist.

Nonsense. Russia and China are Europe's dream allies - they have natural resources and industrial capacity, we have capital and advanced technology.

The only reason Europe is hostile towards Russia and China is because we are allied to America who wants to maintain its superpower status and American dollar as the main international reserve currency.

Perhaps we should say 'f*ck it', ally ourselves to Russia and China, and watch American dollar turn into toilet paper. We probably will if we hear any more b*tching and moaning about "parasitic Euros". Eurasia is potentially the greatest superpower in Earth's history; USA without dollar as the main reserve currency of the world (and the resulting wealth) is not much more than Mexico with nukes.

You just admitted to being America's bi*tch.
BTW, you are not "allied". You are America's military parasite. We would be better off if Europe drowned and turned into the European Sea.
If Russia or China attacked the US, what would Europe do?

I know...Issue an arrest warrant for Putin and Xi...I feel so much better...

Squealing and calling for God's punishment (without specifying which God) on average about twice as quiet as Lithuania alone.

Wrong again.

Somebody who buys weapons manufactured in America for billions of dollars is not a parasite but a customer. I will spell it for you because it's apparently difficult for you to understand: C-U-S-T-O-M-E-R. Poland creates tens of thousands of jobs in the US with all the purchases that we make in weapons only, not to mention gas, oil, medical equipment and other stuff.


Grab popcorn. We don't have to move a finger - it's not our job.

Our job is not to be allied to Russia and China, because that would turn the balance of power in the world upside down, turn American dollar into toilet paper and reduce America to a local power status. It would mean significant decrease in the ridiculous level of consumption by Americans. I'm sure you know that if an average Chinese consumed as much as an average American we would need three additional planet Earths, and the Chinese - obviously - don't think it's fair.

The more I listen to you, Novi, the more I think we should try the alliance with Russia and China. There's only as much b*tching and moaning as a man can take.

No. A customer that causes an annual trade deficit of 150 billion is an enemy since trade deficits are not sustainable.

You conveniently ignored taxpayer-funded subsidies of the MICC. If these bastards didn't need tax money, they would not be under the desk of every DC wh0re aka congressman.

Luxury consumption.

You don't import basic goods from Europe but luxury items: German (Audis, BMWs) and Italian (Lambos, Ferraris) cars, French wine and cheese, Italian and Greek olive oil, Swiss watches and chocolate etc. etc. Learn to live simpler lives, without Gucci handbags, and the trade balance will reverse.

But - first and foremost - stop moaning like a b*tch because one of these days Europe will lose its patience and you will be wiping your arse with 100-dollar bills because it will be cheaper than buying toilet paper.

census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4550.html\

What "luxury" things so we buy from Poland? Lambos?

The US trade deficit with Poland in 2023 was 2 billion bucks. In economic terms, you are an enemy since that 2 billion deficit translates into 40,000 American jobs lost.

With friends like Poland, we don't need enemies. Our relationship is not balanced or reciprocal in every category.

If this sounds shocking, assume that every country on Earth is like Poland adding to the trade deficit and military obligations.

Lies, great lies and statistics.

It is not Poland's exports but exports from Poland (or from Polish territory, to be more exact): cars, car parts and accessories are only manufactured in Poland (because of cheap labour force) but the owners of the companies are German/French/Italian, so the profits go there, not to Poland. We get minimum wages for the slave labour because somebody thought that Poland being a Mexico of Europe is a brilliant idea.

As for the rest, the cosmetics and furniture that we export are certainly not more expensive than all the advanced weapons that we buy from the US, so stop giving us worthless statistics. If I eat only cabbage and rice, and my neighbour eats only meat, then statistically we eat gołąbki. *galactic eyeroll*

...and reading comprehension...

One more time...

The US trade deficit with Poland in 2023 was 2 billion bucks. In economic terms, you are an enemy since that 2 billion deficit translates into 40,000 American jobs lost.

Stay on the subject or go somewhere else...


What the fvck does THAT have to do with the US-Poland trade deficit?

One more time: it's a worthless piece of statistics.


A lot. In the Poland-to-USA export figures are included goods which are manufactured in Poland in, for example, German factories on Polish territory. The automotive factory sells goods to the USA for 2 billion dollars and it is added to Polish export figures. Complete and utter nonsense because all the profit goes to the German company, not to Poland. That's why your numbers are worthless.

On the other hand, when Poland buys American goods: natural gas, oil, tanks, fighter planes, HIMARS etc., all the money goes straight to American companies. See the difference now?

One more time..

I don't give a fvck about Germany or Poland. My only interest is in the US and the fact that every single billion in US trade deficit translates into 20,000 American jobs lost.

Period. The end.

BTW, did you notice "trade deficit"? Do you know what "trade deficit" is and that it not sustainable?
Don't confuse and conflate...I am too smart for this BS.

russia doesn't do 'allies'..... russia wants to rule Europe. They could not be more clear about this. If you don't believe them....

China is too internally focused (and rapidly going back in time... middle class homelessness is now a thing there).


Reality calling: there is no alternative to the dollar at present.

youtube.com/watch?v=LiR54FPQiCs

Another genius with a keyboard...

Russia wants to "rule"...The US does not because the US is too shy and would never, for example, stick its nose into K, V, I, A, S, L, or have hundreds of bases all over the damn world...

But it's Russia who wants to rule Europe...

There should be a separate thread for morons...

I will be eagerly waiting for the end of this mental asylum on Dec 31.

Nonsense.

In all your careful considerations you are missing a very important point: the fact that the USA pays the world for all the imported goods in dollars. In dollars that you yourselves print. :) It's been a long time since those dollars had any real value attached to anything substantial (like gold). So, you are getting all those Lambos and Gucci handbags because American military/political influence is exerted all over the world and the value of American dollar stems from this fact. When that ends, because e.g. Europe allies herself to China and Russia, your dollars will be worthless and you don't want to see what happens then.

That's why Mu'ammar al-Kaddafi and Saddam Hussein had to die - they wanted to challenge dollar as the main reserve currency of the world. Unfortunately for you, it is no as easy to kill Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping as the Libyan and Iraqi leaders.

You seem to be a patriot of your new country, who accepted you as a migrant, but you lack basic understanding of the sources of American wealth, and why it is challenged by - for example - the Russians and the Chinese as something deeply unfair.


Maybe (just maybe) not at present.

Your sophistry is annoying.

No country ever got rich by printing money. No country ever got rich by importing more than it exports.

Just the opposite.

There are only three ways to create wealth: agriculture, manufacturing, and mining. Period. End of the story.

Passing paper for goods can last only so long. When the swindle is unmasked, the sellers will wise up quickly. That's why China is no longer buying US bonds.

Just like the law of gravity, these truths are universal and not open to debate.

My only interest is in the US and the fact that every single billion in US trade deficit translates into 20,000 American jobs lost.

Strikes on foreign mercs, hunt for HIMARS, and electronic warfare systems
Russia continues its campaign to destroy high-value assets and Kiev's forces, including foreign 'instructors'

I like those foreign instructors very much. The deader, the better...

Didn't I tell you to stay the fvck away and mind your own business?

A very accurate description of russian activities in Ukraine over the last 2.5 years. Thank God, normal countries around the world have built more during this time than russia will ever be able to destroy.