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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 13



cms neuf
1 Aug 2024  #361

"No place to hide" doesn't sound like great terrain for your North Nigerian army when they are facing himars, drones, mines, mortars and whatever other weapons the richer and more advanced west wants to test.

By Christmas they will not have advanced more than 50km. And that will only be achieved by even more senseless waste of your young men, who could be back with their families now if you weren't ruled by a paranoid tyrant.

Bobko
1 Aug 2024  #362

after russia invaded..... make sure you always include that

If I was President of Ukraine, I would certainly not shell Donetsk or shut off the water supply to Crimea.

I don't know which genius advisor told them it was a good idea. I suspect that they just "allowed" the nationalists to pressure them into these things.... Rather, the government pretended it was on board, in order not to make itself look completely impotent.

It was nationalist paramilitaries that showed up one day at the Crimean border and started throwing bags of concrete into the canal.

It was nationalist paramilitaries that would fire random rounds into Donetsk, when they would get drunk and bored.

If I was the Ukrainian president, I would do everything in my power to show the Ukrainians living on the other side of the front line that we keep them in our hearts and minds daily. I would ensure they can claim their pensions and welfare benefits without leaving occupied territory. I would encourage them to keep their Ukrainian passports, so they may continue traveling freely in Europe. I would do everything possible to ensure they continue to receive clean and sufficient water supplies.

From the moment they lost them, the Ukrainians began to treat their former compatriots worse than collaborationists. They pushed them into our embrace, because they had nowhere else to go.

Now there are as many as 5 million former Ukrainians, who view the Ukrainian state as the enemy. Nobody forced Kiev to act so myopically. It is all of their own doing.

And we will recruit from among these 5 million. And we will send them to kill their former compatriots. And they will go.

mafketis
1 Aug 2024  #363

I would certainly not shell Donetsk or shut off the water supply to Crimea

If you were president of Ukraine you'd surrender and declare the whole country part of russia.... irrelevant.

russia, completely unprovoked, invaded Ukraine because putain wants to recreate a version of the foul russian empire

russia needs to stop invading its neighbors

Miloslaw
1 Aug 2024  #364

russia needs to stop invading its neighbors

It does.

But force of habit....... it's what Russians do and have always done..... not enough wealth in Russia?Let's invade a neighbour!

Bobko
1 Aug 2024  #365

If you were president of Ukraine you'd surrender and declare the whole country part of russia.

Yes, I most definitely would. I'd be a total Quisling, and am not ashamed to admit it.

In exchange:

1) Ukraine would still have 100% of its population. Now it has lost something like 25% of it, permanently. They are Poland's, Germany's and everybody else's "win" now, never to return home.

2) Ukraine would have a GDP of at least half of Poland's, rather than less than 1/5th.

3) Ukraine would be a gateway for all trade with Eurasia.

4) Half a million people would not be taking dirt naps.

5) America could focus on China. Germany could focus on continuing to become richer.

I could go on and on and on.

Korvinus
1 Aug 2024  #366

If I was President of Ukraine, I would certainly not shell Donetsk or shut off the water supply to Crimea.

Donetsk is the capitol of Donbabwe, enemy pseudo-state occupying the sovereign territory of Ukraine. As such it sure has lots of targets for the AFU. And yes, civilians also die in the shelling. You should know, after all Russia loves to bomb schools and hospitals.

Bobko
1 Aug 2024  #367

Donetsk is the capitol of Donbabwe, enemy pseudo-state occupying the sovereign territory of Ukraine

It's almost 100% made up of people that held Ukrainian passports in 2013.

Treating them as enemies, was quite stupid.

They could have created a festering sore inside Russia, which could have one day sank the entire enterprise. Instead, they did everything they could to make the people of Donetsk loyal to us.

Novichok
1 Aug 2024  #368

Impossible to argue with such people.

Now you know how lions feel when surrounded by hyenas.

mafketis
1 Aug 2024  #369

I could go on and on and on.

And think of how much better off russia could be if it didn't invade Ukraine in 2014?

It could make massive amounts of money that could be used to build infrastructure and educate the citizenry and create a great standard of living....

but that's not russia.... russians don't mind living in garbage if they think they're making people in other countries suffer....

russia threw away prospertiy to chase empire... in a world that no longer has any use for empires.

that's called stupid.

Miloslaw
1 Aug 2024  #370

@Bobko

Despite all that, can you still, honestly, justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

As the Serbs love to say, "Your Slavic brothers"?

The fact is that the Russians are at best 80% Slav......

mafketis
1 Aug 2024  #371

The fact is that the Russians are at best 80% Slav......

The country is less slavic by the day.... putain prefers muslims to Slavs.

Novichok
1 Aug 2024  #372

Despite all that, can you still, honestly, justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

Sure can. KVIA...

Miloslaw
1 Aug 2024  #373

Please post in English.

Or is that too difficult for you?

russia threw away prosperity to chase empire

So true!

Crow
1 Aug 2024  #374

Poland is lucky that we Serbians and other Slavs ie Sarmatians, Russia included, love Poland. We will save Poland from satanic western European and sickening USA ways.

We coming our venerable Polish brethren.

Miloslaw
1 Aug 2024  #375

Oh yeah? Who's side will Serbia be on if there is war between "Slavonic Poland" and "80% Slavonic Russia"?

Crow
1 Aug 2024  #376

Serbia will prevent that war. We can do that.

Miloslaw
1 Aug 2024  #377

The sooner that Serbs realise that they are an unimportant state and do not have the influence on Russia that they believe they have,the safer the world will be.

If Russia decides to invade Poland, it will and Serbia will be swatted away like a pesky mosquito.

Or Russians may insist that you prove your loyalty by sending troops to aid the Russians in invading Poland.

Where do your and Serbian loyalties lie there then Crow?

Crow
2 Aug 2024  #378

If you two start to kill each others then we show penis to both of you. Who gives a sh*t then. Jebite se.

mafketis
2 Aug 2024  #379

we show penis to both of you

More serbian sexual deviance....

johnny reb
2 Aug 2024  #380

I found this article in Newsweek about the latest European defense lines between the NATO countries and the Commies.
Poland and other NATO countries have started air-defense operations designed to reinforce Polish airspace, which borders both Ukraine and Russia.
Operation Eastern Aurora involves support from British and American armed forces. It will run parallel with the movement of 17,000 soldiers to the Polish-Belarusian border, which has an increasing migration crisis.

msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-nato-allies-launch-joint-eastern-aurora-mission-on-russia-s-doorstep/ar-BB1r61t9?ocid=hpmsn

Miloslaw
2 Aug 2024  #381

Poland and other NATO countries have started air-defense operations designed to reinforce Polish airspace,

Correct.And it is a very sensible precaution.

I reckon that the Polish military could easily handle a Russian invasion, but they need air support, which is what the British and Americans would offer.

Novichok
2 Aug 2024  #382

Poland, NATO Allies Launch Joint 'Eastern Aurora' Mission On Russia's Doorstep

Can I assume that the US would welcome with open arms, coffee, and pastries the combined forces of China and Russia at its doorstep?

At least Russia has a doorstep. We have a welcoming wagon with directions to the nearest shelter, hospital, and welfare office...
I reckon that the Polish military could easily handle a Russian invasion

Name three reasons why Russia would want to invade Poland.

johnny reb
2 Aug 2024  #383

Can I assume that the US would welcome with open arms, China and Russia at its doorstep?
They already are Novi.
We just chased both Russian and Chinese military bombers out of our airspace.
Name three reasons why Russia would want to invade Poland.

1 Military strategic area
2. Greed
3. Expand until they own and control all of Europe

Miloslaw
2 Aug 2024  #384

Name three reasons why Russia would want to invade Poland.

1.Because that is what Russians do.

2.Because Poland is the most prosperous country that used to be controlled by the USSR.

3.Because if they can defeat Poland, the rest of Eastern Europe is theirs to take.

Satisfied?

Novichok
2 Aug 2024  #385

Satisfied?

No. Because it's bullshit.

If the USSR wanted Poland, they would never leave Poland. They would keep a 300,000-men army they already had and nothing would pry them loose and out.

Then in 1990 came Russia. If Russia wanted Poland it would take Poland BEFORE Poland joined NATO. Duh!

2.Because Poland is the most prosperous country that used to be controlled by the USSR.

Name three things Russia needs from Poland so badly that it would risk WW3 for them...

Russia, a country that drowns in oil and gas, has a world-class industrial and military base, more land than it can use, and would get nothing from Poland other than the most hateful people on Earth. What a deal...

I guess that if Poland decided to join the Russian Federation, Russia would refuse.

I would, too...

johnny reb
3 Aug 2024  #386

Name three things Russia needs from Poland so badly that it would risk WW3 for them...

Better yet, name three things Russia needs from Ukraine so badly to risk WW3 for them.
(Besides toilets)
The U.S. is ratchetting up to go to war with Iran as an Alie to Israel which I predict will be a quick war however Russia is an Alie to Iran which will draw Russia into that war.
Being China and N. Korea are Alies of Russia the United States will undoubtedly be attacked which will draw the NATO countries into the conflict.
This will undoubtedly lead to nuclear war which will reduce the world population by 80%.
Its a win win for the globalists.

Novichok
3 Aug 2024  #387

Better yet, name three things Russia needs from Ukraine so badly to risk WW3 for them.

1. Ukraine never in NATO
2. Respect for the Russian minority, its culture and language

Ukraine is not worth WW3 to the US so Russia went for it. Poland is not worth enough to Russia to risk a war with the US.
the United States will undoubtedly be attacked which will draw the NATO countries into the conflict.

I disagree. The parasites would sue China or Russia in the ICC. That's it...
The French didn't want to fight Germans in defense of France. Zero chance they would come here to defend us.

PolAmKrakow
3 Aug 2024  #388

F16s spotted flying over Lviv yesterday.

Ukraine will never get into NATO unless the US, Germany and Hungary are out. Hungary will never vote them in.

Alien
3 Aug 2024  #389

F16s spotted flying over Lviv yesterday

Good news.

mafketis
3 Aug 2024  #390

Ukraine will never get into NATO

Only idiots believe the russian invasion (which started in 2014) was caused in any way by NATO.... I'm still waiting for cultural insiders (russians/Ukrainians) who take the idea seriously....

It's putain giving the russian public what it wants.... inflicting misery on other countries so that rank and file russians can feel better about their loser existence.... it's not a rational, western idea but russia is not a rational, western place.

There's also the collective narcissistic wound carried by russians...


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