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Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 13



Novichok
10 Aug 2024  #511

There is another way...Drop all you got on Downtown Kiev. Some will get through...

Never mind those hearts and minds...That didn't work very well for the US in Iraq.

cms neuf
10 Aug 2024  #512

But what if "all you got" is some rusty old Soviet junk and you have no means to deliver it, no means to replace it because you can't get any components ?

I don't know why you can never understand that. It's simple - the North Nigerian army is crap, they are drunk from dawn till dusk and too scared to use the Air Force

Novichok
10 Aug 2024  #513

But what if "all you got" is some rusty old Soviet junk and you have no means to deliver it, no means to replace

OK. I got it. 600,000 Ukrainians committed suicide. Why and how would they do it?

Is every Polak an imbecile?

Tacitus
10 Aug 2024  #514

Is every Polak an imbecile?

That after citing a completely unbelievable, unsupported casualty number.

Speaking of casualties, the Ukrainians managed to take out a Russian convoy en route to the Ukrainian incursion. The Russian propagandists are really unhappy about this.

x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1822224828046221328

Novichok
10 Aug 2024  #515

unbelievable, unsupported casualty number.

OK. Give me the believable and supported Ukrainian casualty numbers.

In the meantime, while you are looking in vain, whatever that number is...Suicide or dishwashers in Russian hands?

Is every German an idiot that says NO without saying what YES is? It's amazing how low they can fall...

pawian
10 Aug 2024  #516

Give me the believable and supported Ukrainian casualty numbers.

Nobody can give you such numbers. But yours are sucked from your dirty finger.

the Ukrainians managed to take out a Russian convoy

I have always wondered why Russians act like cows led to slaughter. They do not protest or rebel against their oppressors. AmaSSing!

pawian
10 Aug 2024  #517

Is every Polak an imbecile?

No, only those who emigrated to the US! hahahaha buhahaha Ale witz!!!

Novichok
10 Aug 2024  #518

Nobody can give you such numbers.

Then you should go to your sandbox and leave the discussion to the adults.
Or at least STFU about my numbers if you don't know yours.

That after citing a completely unbelievable, unsupported casualty number.

Hey, Tacitus, am I getting those believable casualty numbers from you or not?

What...too shy or just ignorant?

pawian
10 Aug 2024  #519

leave the discussion to the adults

AmaSSing. You sound like johhny now. :):):)

Or at least STFU about my numbers

Darling, your numbers are sucked from a dirty finger of yours and I won`t shut up about it. Simple.

Miloslaw
10 Aug 2024  #520

Then you should go to your sandbox and leave the discussion to the adults.

Yeah, be careful Rich, you are sounding more and more like the adolescent child JR Jim is.......

Novichok
10 Aug 2024  #521

Russians in despair as Ukrainian drones dominate the battlefield
"The Russians cover themselves with the decomposing bodies of their comrades to escape from our drones," says Lt. Anastasia Blyshchyk. The fear of drones is enormous. They dominate the front so absolutely that sometimes, the mere sight of them drives Russians to commit suicide.

An SMO is a lousy sub for an all-out war. See Vietnam.

PolAmKrakow
11 Aug 2024  #522

This foray into Russia is continuing to advance, and its a pretty big deal. Saying Russia has nothing but junk weapons is simply not the case. Ukraine is getting hit every day by Russias rusty junk and Ukrainians are dying, like Russians are dying. It will be an interesting land swap at peace negotiations.

Alien
11 Aug 2024  #523

This foray into Russia is continuing

I am a realist, the russians will recover from the initial surprise and remove the Ukrainians from their territory before peace talks take place. But it was worth it.

PolAmKrakow
11 Aug 2024  #524

@Alien
I dont know. Russia is thin on reserves and a second front could force another mobilization, which Putin does not want. This is a real black eye for him publicly. They are losing a lot of men on both fronts now, and that manpower pressure is a very important thing to recognize as I said for almost a year with Ukraine facing a shortage. It would appear now that Ukraine was able to round up enough men to shore up their numbers. If Ukraine can hang on to Russian land, it is a serious bargaining chip. The best thing for Russia now would be a Trump win, a Kamala win, likely triggers a larger and longer war.

Tacitus
11 Aug 2024  #525

am I getting those believable casualty numbers from you or not?

A few months ago it was estimated that Russia had suffered 550k casualties - dead and wounded, with Ukrainian numbers below that.

That seems to be a realistic assesment.

johnny reb
11 Aug 2024  #526

a Kamala win, likely triggers a larger and longer war.

biden has already shoveled $175 billion USD out the door for "Aid" to Ukraine.
Just think what that kind of money could have done to protect the American border and American citizens.

mafketis
11 Aug 2024  #527

would appear now that Ukraine was able to round up enough men

A hint: From Ukraine's persepctive it's generally a good idea to claim weakness... while the russians tend to claim strength.

Both sides lie in way, any war, something like truth will not emerge until well after some cessation of hostilities.

Economically russia is now stuck in the war, having converted to a war-time economy if it tries to withdraw the bottom will fall out of everything...

It's also converted, far more than Ukraine, to a war-time information regime and one by one internet sources leading outside russia are being shut.

Even if russia 'wins' it's now fatally screwed...

Afghanistan was russia's Vietnam, exposing the divisions in russian society and exposing the contradictions that made the soviet systum untenable...

This is something else and no country in modern times (except maybe Cambodia and/or Venezuela in different ways) have come close to self-destructing so spectacularly.

mafketis
11 Aug 2024  #528

Meanwhile russia hires crisis actors to pretend Polish mercenaries are invading....

x.com/victoriaslog/status/1822575654052803051

And russia killed a kid in Kyiv..... cause..... russia.... that's what russia is...

x.com/victoriaslog/status/1822526596114239926

Novichok
11 Aug 2024  #529

With all that hate of Russia and the glee that this war destroys Russia, you Russia haters should support Russia's invasion.

Instead, I detect concern about Russia - the country that allegedly wants to occupy the Universe. OK...at least Poland.

Something doesn't make sense...

I hate LGBTs and I am glad that they die of AIDS or suicides. Not nice but at least I am consistent.

The same with migrants...When they drown it's a good day for me.

Korvinus
11 Aug 2024  #530

Even if russia 'wins' it's now fatally screwed...

Russia is in theoretically a commanding position with superior numbers AND number of armaments

the fact that Ukraine can do a "surprise" attack on Russian border and conquer a whole area in 4 days is just laughable on Russian part

the fact that they managed to destroy some warehouse with military equipment is even more outrageous

This is not 200 A.D. Three Kingdom era where a bunch of guys with horses can raid your backline a disrupt supply line, this is 2024, with satellite, drones, and sh*its

the fact that Ukraine do this with fu*cking Motorized Brigade with Tanks and s*hits and now Russia is probably forced to artillery their own territory to push back incursion in a war where they are the attacking force is extremely laughable

Novichok
11 Aug 2024  #531

they are the attacking force is extremely laughable

No, it's not. This is a PR stunt without any military value.
If anything, it will give Kremlin hawks a lever to speed up the war and end it on Russia's terms.

If a Mexican brigade entered Texas, how long would it take to send them back? The answer: Very long because the Texas National Guard would have to fight Mexicans and the Fed goons who would be sent there to help the Mexicans in their invasion and give them US citizenship as they are killing Texans. They wouldn't even have to give up their guns.

It's been happening on a mass scale since Joe stumbled into the Oval Office in 2021.

Korvinus
11 Aug 2024  #532

Ukraine can be in Moscow next month and Novichok will be spinning on how great it still is for Russia
Putin lost the plot and all his credibility when he lied about the "military exercises" and went directly for Kiev.
Almost lost Moscow to a rebelious and crazy warlord
Lost large parts of Kursk oblast
Best conquest they can brag about are the burned out remains of Avdiivka

Novichok
11 Aug 2024  #533

Ukraine can be in Moscow next month

...and I can be Pope by next Friday if I pray hard enough...

Germans thought they could be in Moscow for Christmas...Then this happened...

Memo to the Red Army: I love you guys...Thanks for liberating Poland from the Germans and keeping it safe from the Western warmongers and their Vietnam-style "freedom and democracy" police action...Better red than dead...Thanks again...RIP.


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Novichok
11 Aug 2024  #534

Putin lost the plot and all his credibility when he lied about the "military exercises" and went directly for Kiev.

At least he didn't spend 20 years to lose and leave billions of mil hardware behind.
BTW, Putin never wanted Kiev and Ukraine. He just doesn't like that Jewish Western wh0re and his NATO dreams.
The US wouldn't like the Warsaw Pact in Mexico, either...Funny, isn't it...

mafketis
11 Aug 2024  #535

Great short video dropped by urbanist and train enthusist Adam Something (ethnic Hungarian living in Czech Republic) on russian state sponsored propaganda pulp fiction books....

Completely insane and they come in a few basic models...

Brave russians fight 'Banderites' in Ukraine....

Modern russians are transported into the bodies of historical figures and rewrite history, usually destroying the British empire in the process

Revisions of history in which Hitler and Stalin never parted ways and they win WWII together against the British....

Fantasy outings like Darth Vader joining the russians in WWII...

Russian being transported to Mordor to win the battle for Sauron (the good guy in the russian version).

I knew about parts of this from Galeev who also points out that in modern russian 'nazi' means 'someone who opposes russian imperialism'....

Nothing about NATO for some reason.....



Korvinus
11 Aug 2024  #536

Thanks for liberating Poland

LOL. If you think a bit, Bolshevik Russian pre-Molotov Ribbentrop failed to take Poland, the Baltic, and other countries

Novichok
11 Aug 2024  #537

Bolshevik Russian pre-Molotov Ribbentrop failed to take Poland,

I don't give a FF about Molotov and Ribbentrop...

To me, the world history started on the first day I remember. It was September 1, 1946, when my brother was born. All else before that date is irrelevant BS.

Consistently, I judge posters here on the basis of their last post, not all of them. That would require an effort I am not willing to make because there is no payback.

Korvinus
11 Aug 2024  #538

Dude, you're really sounding like a broken record
about Molotov and Ribbentro

Secret protocol to the treaty not only stipulated the partition of Poland (obvious military joint action), but also division of the remaining countries of the region, with Soviet Union getting the Baltic States (with the exception of Klaipeda, which was ceded to Germany) and a large chunk of Romania.
And during the years 1939-41 Soviet Union provided Hitler not only with large amounts of war materiel but also with... naval bases for U-bots operating in North Atlantic.

Novichok
11 Aug 2024  #539

And during the years 1939-41 Soviet Union provided Hitler

That was before 1946 so I don't care.

Bratwurst Boy
11 Aug 2024  #540

Revisions of history in which Hitler and Stalin never parted ways and they win WWII together against the British....

I had this idea from the beginning.....after the felt humiliation through losing the Cold War he is revisiting the "good ol times"....the victories of WWII....but the times have changed! Totally!


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