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Brexit 2019 and Poland



Dougpol1
17 Jan 2019  #31

Russian bots, with their tedious repetition, feel the need to pollute every single thread on what is a forum about Poland and what affects Poles throughout the world.

Like Brexit for example. So yeah, you are off thread Rich. And a harassment as per.

delphiandomine
17 Jan 2019  #32

feel the need to pollute every single thread

It's elsewhere too. If you read the comment section of the Polish media, they're always full of strange comments that are written in dodgy Polish. The Economist is the same - full of vague nonsense about liberals, the EU and Muslims.

The amusing part is knowing that some people actually have to spend all day typing up this rubbish.

Lyzko
17 Jan 2019  #33

According to my contacts in Europe, in particular Germany, BREXIT remains an "unavoidable tragedy"!

Rich Mazur
17 Jan 2019  #34

BREXIT remains an "unavoidable tragedy"!

And, according to those contacts, joining the EU migrant sewer was one gigantic leap forward toward perpetual bliss and eternal happiness.
Would that be a correct statement?

Doug, as you can see, I recognized the error of my ways and snapped right back.

dolnoslask
17 Jan 2019  #35

The amusing part is knowing

It's amusing that there are only 6000 British citizens legally living in Poland and if they are currently here on a residence permit they will have to change it to one stamped "BREXIT" , distinguishing them from normal EU residents.

Any future applications from British wishing to reside in Poland will be treated on a third world basis so it will be very hard for Britons to escape and settle in Poland once things get bad in the UK.

So don't forget if you are not a Polish citizen you have one year to confirm your rights and get your permit stamped or you will be thrown out.

I know a couple of people here in Poland, and there maybe a few in the same situation on this forum who never got around to keeping their permits up to date, so won't get the "BREXIT" stamp and will be deported if caught by the border guard or grassed up by a neighbour.

theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/15/poland-and-czech-republic-to-allow-britons-to-stay-if-uk-crashes-out-of-eu

TheOther
17 Jan 2019  #36

joining the EU migrant sewer was one gigantic leap forward

The U.K. was frequently referred to as the "sick man of Europe" throughout the late 1960s and 1970s. Only after they joined the EEC in 1973 did their economy slowly rebound.

ft.com/content/202a60c0-cfd8-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377

Dougpol1
17 Jan 2019  #37

so it will be very hard for Britons to escape and settle in Poland once things get bad in the UK.

Bad in the UK? And things aren't bad here, with a government that do nothing to deter hate crime, with the obvious results?
You must be having a laugh Dolno if you think Brits are busting a gut to come to this (suddenly quite expensive) country.
I would laugh, but I hurt my ribs, so I will just chortle loudly at your ridiculous notion of 7 months of grey tedious winter weather luring crowds of Brits to Poland.

Oh, and PS: your scenario where Brits have to go begging to their local Marshall's office for a Stalyt Pobyt update ain't going to happen.

Unlike Poland, Brits don't take kindly to dictators like May. She's failed, and there will no hard Brexit.
Sorry to disappoint you and your nationalist agenda.

delphiandomine
17 Jan 2019  #38

The U.K. was frequently referred to as the "sick man of Europe" throughout the late 1960s and 1970s.

Indeed, it was one of the reasons why France was so reluctant to let the UK join.

So don't forget if you are not a Polish citizen

Already got citizenship, but thanks.

dolnoslask
17 Jan 2019  #39

7 months of grey tedious winter weather luring crowds of Brits to Poland.

What are you talking about winters here are a dream, plenty of snow for skiing, walking taking in the beautiful views in the mountains. to me its not any different to the place I had in Austria, and Poland is cheap in comparison, but also under advertised there lies the problem , Britains winters in comparison are just damp, no fun to be had.

Don't bring the hate crime thing into this thread, plenty of that in Britain, approx 40000 a year.

Don't forget to go to the foreigners office get you papers stamped BREXIT, otherwise you might be seeing blighty sooner than you think, don't worry I will also be chortling till me ribs hurt knowing you will always have your Brexit papers in your pocket .

jon357
17 Jan 2019  #40

Going to work at 7am by public transport on an icy Monday morning in February, in Warsaw or Łódż, makes Polish winters somewhat less of a dream.

scenario where Brits have to go begging to their local Marshall's office for a Stalyt Pobyt update ain't going to happen.

At worst, it would just be like pre-2004, where people either arranged residence or just popped across the border (nowadays that would mean the Schengen border) every six months.

Rich Mazur
17 Jan 2019  #41

My personal economy was in the toilet, too, when I was 27. So I decided to sell my soul to Satan but he declined. Mean sob. Out of desperation, I decided to become a male prostitute and within days I was rolling in so much dough you wouldn't believe it. Then, I got HIV. I did everything possible, but I couldn't get rid of it. Just like the Brits will never get rid of the multi crap that came with the prosperity. That, like herpes and AIDS, is forever.

dolnoslask
17 Jan 2019  #42

Sorry to disappoint you and your nationalist agenda.

HaHa You have nothing to bring to the topic so you start ranting nationalist lalala.

I have posted the details of a Polish draft law regarding Brexit here for discussion and I don't want it dragged off topic.

Brits have to go begging to their local Marshall's office for a Stalyt Pobyt update ain't going to happen.

Comply in the timescale provided (1 year) or be deported that will be the law.

The Straz Granica( Border guards) do not mess about or take any smart talk or backchat, I live in the borderlands and have seen them in action, good luck if you want to be arrogant or mess with them.

TheOther
17 Jan 2019  #43

the multi crap that came with the prosperity

You call Polish workers in the U.K. "multi crap"?

Rich Mazur
17 Jan 2019  #44

No. Only the non-Christians.

Dougpol1
17 Jan 2019  #45

the details of a Polish draft law

You obviously can't read. The draft law is for if the UK leaves the EU with no agreement. That is not going to be allowed to happen.

And I have my documents in order thank you. No amendment is required. No stamp. Nothing.
We know you would like to live in your border area without foreigners. But they will come soon enough, muslims and all.
Be prepared!

dolnoslask
17 Jan 2019  #46

icy Monday morning in February, in Warsaw or Łódż, makes Polish winters somewhat less of a dream.

Why on earth would anybody wishing to leave Britain for a better life choose any of the above

Tatras, Carpathians even Silesia are a more likely bet.

Warsaw is like London (But safer), But would anyone in the uk go to London for a better life don't think so.

We know you would like to live in your border area without foreigners.

It has not taken you more than five minutes to try and Bait me with racism on this thread, So I am a racist because I posted and tried to discuss a Polish draft law.. you need reporting, now leave me alone comrade.

TheOther
17 Jan 2019  #47

Only the non-Christians.

They are mostly Commonwealth citizens. Nothing to do with the EU.

unhcr.org/asylum-in-the-uk.html
fullfact.org/immigration/uk-refugees/

Rich Mazur
17 Jan 2019  #48

So a Syrian or an Algerian in Germany is not allowed to move to the UK. Is that correct?

jon357
17 Jan 2019  #49

That's correct, not if they're there on a Schengen visa or as a refugee. The UK has always been outside the Schengen zone. Freedom of movement applies only to citizens.

But would anyone in the uk go to London for a better life don't think so.

Plenty do.

Mind you, most British people who move to Poland go there for work or for familly/relationship reasons.

delphiandomine
17 Jan 2019  #50

But would anyone in the uk go to London for a better life don't think so.

A friend is a shipbroker, and he was offered 3x his salary plus housing paid for if he relocated from Glasgow to London.

No brainer, I'd say.

Miloslaw
17 Jan 2019  #51

The fact remains that many,many more Poles come to Britain than Brits go to Poland.
There are many reasons for that.
But on balance you are better off in Britain.
Things may change in the future,but probably not.

Most of you Polish Americans will never have heard of Pat Condell.
But he speaks for many of us in The UK.
Watch his other videos too.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=R9T4dGAxtO0

Joker
17 Jan 2019  #52

Most of you Polish Americans will never have heard of Pat Condell.

I just watched the video and I like what he has to say, he reminds me of Nigel Farage, splendid chaps!

The amusing part is knowing that some people actually have to spend all day typing up this rubbish.

You are doing the exact thing that youre complaining about....lol

Tacitus
17 Jan 2019  #53

I pity the poor young Brits that old fools like this one were allowed to throw away their future.

I am 6 minutes in the video and so far he has not made a single point to refute the rational arguments against Brexit. He reminds me of people like Farage; rhetorically brilliant, but without any arguments to back up his points. All he does is appealing to the "hurt" Brexiteers feelings, because somehow calling them what they are (moronic and downright racist in many cases) is so unfair, despite the fact that he seems to embody those attributes.

Miloslaw
17 Jan 2019  #54

Are you serious?
You live on another planet from many Brits and most Americans if you think that.
Maybe Planet Islam?

Dougpol1
17 Jan 2019  #55

Bait me with racism on this thread, So I am a racist because I posted and tried to discuss a Polish draft law.

It was you who started baiting by suggesting that Brits with existing residence papers will have to grovel to get them "stamped" here. The Guardian article doesn't say that. You felt the need to start some silly rumour about British residence rights as you see them, in "the great and almighty Poland".

Pathetic.

Joker
17 Jan 2019  #56

I like this guy, you should vote him as PM:)

youtu.be/2SmRbTyk6Z8

ORDEEEEEEEEER!

Why are they so loud and yelling all the time?

dolnoslask
17 Jan 2019  #57

you who started baiting by suggesting that Brits with existing residence papers will have to grovel to get them "stamped"

I posted an article in English (which was abridged by a untrustworthy but renowned British rag) regarding this law here because this is a English forum, I of course read the full article in Polish.

Here is a more detailed English (As you don't read Polish) article that goes into the detail, and yes you will need a document stamped BREXIT.

"After receiving a positive decision, the person concerned will obtain a residence card with a special "Brexit" annotation,"

natlawreview.com/article/poland-immigration-status-uk-nationals-after-brexit

Please do not refer to me as pathetic when I am posting factual information , I will not be shouted down by someone with a political or personal agenda.

Rich Mazur
18 Jan 2019  #58

because somehow calling them what they are (moronic and downright racist in many cases)

Milo is so right. You are from another planet and it is not a complement. In fact, you disgust me with that "moronic and downright racist" comment of yours.

Also, that planet is a lonely place judging by the comments below the video with ALL of them in support.
If you want to call him a racist, you should have enough decency to elaborate on and justify that label. I am not going to ask for the evidence that he is a racist because there isn't any. If I am wrong and you have the evidence that he, in fact, is a racist, produce it.

TheOther
18 Jan 2019  #59

Nigel Farage, splendid chap

Are you serious? Farage receives a pension from Brussels and is trying to get the German passport. Brexit is only for the suckers; he and his family enjoy the advantages of the E.U. instead.

Dougpol1
18 Jan 2019  #60

Please do not refer to me as pathetic

In your case dolno I have never done that, and would not insult you in that way. Happy to clarify that I in fact opinioned your post was pathetic.

Any Brit who already has a residence card need do nothing at all. Your take on the situation suggested that we need to register again or get some "stamp".

This is misinformation at best,and is palpably incorrect. And I took your opinion as a sort of "crowing" in that "We will get our sovereignty back" kind of paranoia.

Happy to be corrected if that was not your intention.


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