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Brexit 2019 and Poland



delphiandomine
25 Jan 2019  #121

How can you kids be so blind in denial ?

What denial? A European army allows us to defend against threats, both West and East.

By the way, European armies commonly mix within NATO. Poland is providing air policing for the Baltics at the minute, for instance.

Bratwurst Boy
25 Jan 2019  #122

How can you kids be so blind in denial ?

Hmmm....I always marvel how you "prophecy" guys always find a way to blame Germany.

You said it yourself...the Dutch are involved, the Czechs and Romanians have agreed, now France shows interest...but you keep blaming Germany alone?

Just to fulfill some self-interpreted non-biblic stuff where your disgraced-and-kicked-out-of-any-serious-church-nutter-of-a-self-declared-preacher thinks the descendants of the Assyrians have wandered into Germany, and somehow the white USians and Brits are not descendants of the very same people, sh*itting directly in the face of history, archeology and plain genetics and whatever holy crap else?

How STUPID and totally ignorant can a rational thinking being be????

PS: Not to speak of that nothing of this is written in the bible at all..now that is denial! That "prophecy" is man made only...by some serious disturbed individual at that.

Dougpol1
25 Jan 2019  #123

you instantly turn around as if it happened in Poland

Why on earth do you think that everything that goes in Poland is necessarily right or acceptable?
Very odd - and rather silly of you I should have said.

jon357
25 Jan 2019  #124

How STUPID and totally ignorant can a rational thinking being be????

I find myself asking the same question. The answer isn't necessarily a good one.

Rich Mazur
25 Jan 2019  #125

Poland is providing air policing for the Baltics at the minute, for instance.

Those nasty Norwegians getting ready to attack again... You just can't trust them.
Now, I finally know where the dumb Polack jokes came from. Poland.

Miloslaw
25 Jan 2019  #126

How STUPID and totally ignorant can a rational thinking being be????

Be careful BB,this rant sounds too much like Crow.....please don't go there.....

Bratwurst Boy
25 Jan 2019  #127

Nah...that was just a replic to some rant.

Wild pseudo-religious prophecies are exactly NOT my cup of tea...

Miloslaw
25 Jan 2019  #128

Good man BB!

Dougpol1
27 Jan 2019  #129

Some views on Brexit from Poles living in the UK. One man, a successful chef made the point "I have been living here building a successful business with my family for 15 years with residency. Why should I have to apply again." I couldn't agree more. 30 percent of the population feels unwanted. Of course not everybody can shrug off what people think of them and simply ignore them, and it's an unfair situation for those people. May says she wants them to stay but treats them like aliens.

theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/27/everything-changed-in-2016-poles-in-uk-struggle-with-brexit

dolnoslask
27 Jan 2019  #130

May says she wants them to stay but treats them like aliens.

Cos they is white and a easy target.

Rich Mazur
27 Jan 2019  #131

...and rarely aks for handouts.

Dougpol1
27 Jan 2019  #132

Except if it's in their own country. Why do you think this PIS government exists? The animals have been let out of the communist cage, but a large number of them are too used to the handouts.

Anyway, handouts wont do the business for immigrants. For instance myself and Mrs Dougpol have never claimed or been awarded a single zloty in grants or rebates of any sort whatsoever, whilst for many years employing 50 people full time, so why would Poles in the UK be any different?

Rich Mazur
27 Jan 2019  #133

That's my point. I don't remember one Pole on welfare here and I have seen many.
Being on welfare in your own country is not even close as bad as being an immigrant and a parasite at the same time.

Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2019  #134

Interesting read:

'Everything changed in 2016': Poles in UK struggle with Brexit

Members of Britain's largest group of foreign nationals tell how love and admiration for their adopted country is turning sour

theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/27/everything-changed-in-2016-poles-in-uk-struggle-with-brexit

Renata remembers clearly the morning after the Brexit vote in June 2016, when the Polish parents at her son's school in Northamptonshire gathered by the school gates. Lost for words, the English parents would hurry past, avoiding eye contact.....


Miloslaw
27 Jan 2019  #135

Interesting read:

No it's not.....it's from The Grauniad,that famous unprofitable left wing propaganda newspaper full of spelling mistakes!
Poles are natural worriers......they worrry about their health,the weather,politics,their jobs....everything.
I know many Poles in The UK that are genuinly,profoundly worried about Brexit.
And all without reason.

Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2019  #136

Poles are natural worriers......they worrry about their health,the weather,politics,their jobs....everything.

...heh:) That's a description of us Germans (german Angst) down to a T! :)

Miloslaw
27 Jan 2019  #137

Poles and Germans do share many traits.... :-)

Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2019  #138

What I'm saying...must because of all this mixing during the centuries! :)

Miloslaw
27 Jan 2019  #139

Some truth in that BB.

delphiandomine
27 Jan 2019  #140

I know many Poles in The UK that are genuinly,profoundly worried about Brexit.

It's sad. They shouldn't have to worry at all, and the stuff I've read about how people turned very hostile towards them post-Brexit is just heartbreaking.

Miloslaw
27 Jan 2019  #141

It's sad. They shouldn't have to worry at all,

My point exactly.
As for Brits being hostile to Poles,I think that has been.vastly exaggerated by the left wing media.

TheOther
27 Jan 2019  #142

Actually, it's rags like the Daily Mail which sell the Doomsday picture of the mooching east Europeans who are taking away British jobs.

bolek_tusk
27 Jan 2019  #143

He also believes that NATO members have to pay the US for their safety.

Not quite... He resents NATO members not paying the US for their safety, and questions the need of the USA to be in NATO since it is a drain on US resources.

washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/15/donald-trump-has-repeatedly-suggested-leaving-nato/

Miloslaw
27 Jan 2019  #144

Actually, it's rags like the Daily Mail which sell the Doomsday picture of the mooching east Europeans who are taking away British jobs.

In your imagination.....because that is what you want to believe.
The Mail has never insulted Poles,quite the reverse,they have had many articles about how The Poles helped Britain during the war and loads about 303 Squadron.

Bratwurst Boy
27 Jan 2019  #145

The Mail has never insulted Poles

Hmmm.....

Polish federation accuses Daily Mail of defamation

theguardian.com/media/2008/mar/15/dailymail.pressandpublishing

In its letter of complaint to the PCC, the federation accused the Daily Mail of printing articles that gave rise to "negative emotions and tensions between the new EU immigrants and local communities".

"Polish plumber" anybody?

"Poles seem to be unable to please the Daily Mail, whatever they do. On one day you get a headline Poles Flood into England, implying the country is drowning in immigrants....

The Daily Mail spokesman said the paper was not against any ethnic group.

"We do reserve the right to criticise bogus asylum claims, benefit cheats, tax dodgers and militant fanatics, no matter where they were born," he said.

Some headlines complained about:

November 2006: Britain Is Country of Choice for Many 'Feckless' Poles

November 2006: Polish Borat Claims Groping Women Is Normal in Eastern Europe

June 2007: Polish Homosexuals Facing Persecution in Exodus to UK

June 2007: Polish Immigrants Take £1bn out of the UK Economy

October 2007: Immigrants Here for Good: Half of Poles Plan to Stay in UK

November 2007: Fears for NHS & Schools as 1,000 Polish Children Are Born Every Month

TheOther
27 Jan 2019  #146

He resents NATO members not paying the US for their safety

I was actually talking about JR, but never mind... :)

At the 2014 summit in Wales, member states committed to invest 2% of their GDP in their OWN military. It's not a fee that has to be paid to the US, as Trump wants you to believe.

In your imagination.....because that is what you want to believe.

Here's one article:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3088541/Three-four-migrants-Eastern-Europe-filling-low-skill-jobs-roles-fruit-picking-evidence-mounts-cheap-labour-forcing-British-workers-pay.html

delphiandomine
27 Jan 2019  #147

As for Brits being hostile to Poles,I think that has been.vastly exaggerated by the left wing media.

I don't think so. There's plenty of news in the Polish media on all sides about how things have changed for them since Brexit.

bolek_tusk
27 Jan 2019  #148

The animals have been let out of the communist cage, but a large number of them are too used to the handouts.

Like the old UBeks who got their pension cut from 10,000zl a month to 2,000 by KaczyƄski in October 2017 :)

KOD is full of them

delphiandomine
27 Jan 2019  #149

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrzej_Przy%C5%82%C4%99bski

Just like PiS.

bolek_tusk
27 Jan 2019  #150

benefit cheats,

The majority of 'Polish' benefit cheats turned out to be Cygany who Poles don't recognise as Polish, but English do.


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