Brexit 2019 and Poland

So the next thing is for someone to separate... 5-6 years, and here we have Scotland...

I guess they won't go to war, just... So that we have the Freedom Army of Scotland and everything that goes with it...

Karma is a bit@h.

I mean, maybe they should seriously consider falling apart in blood, with barricades and fratricides, millions of refugees, the Dayton peace accords and The Hague tribunal eventually. For about five to six years. It's obviously appealing, no matter how feminine the average UK man has become.

twitter.com/profmusgrave/status/1151981701263953921

If war was to break out, rather Ireland will unite than anything else.

youtu.be/YIKBgxiR7sY

Imagine there being a major fu@k up and the refugees start going... and then the EU tells them no you can't, since you refused to receive, now no one will accept you...

The stop No Deal talks are going along quite nicely, and there seems to be a consensus to stop No Deal in any way whatsover, including the nuclear option.

Miloslaw and others have suddenly gone quiet, and Johnson must be soiling his pants.

I am disenchanted with PF and not posting much at the moment, but I am still "lurking".
Your post deserved a response, which I am sure was your intention. :-)
This latest move by remoaners is just sheer,last ditch,desperation and has no plan and is bound to fail.
It is pure la la land nonsense.
This is not a world war situation.......hysterical lefties are going mad because they know they have lost.
And I will tell you why Brexit will happen.
1.Corbyn is a Brexiteer and an oportunist with no morals.
He is the only person that can call for a motion of no confidence in the govt and he will only do that if he can become PM.

It is becoming increasingly clear that if Boris was deposed, Ken Clarke would become PM of a temporary govt.
I can't see Corbyn voting for that.
Brexit happens.
2.If The Labour Party put Corbyn under enough pressure to call a vote of no confidence, I think Boris would win anyway.
Brexit happens.
3.In the extremely unlikely event that things get this far.And the motion of no confidence wins.
Boris is under no obligation to resign.
Brexit happens.
4.In this situation only The Queen can step in.
Given her reluctance to be involved in politics,this is extremely unlikely.
Even if she was forced to by circumstances, she would go for the least political line.
Allow the status quo to continue, that is, allow Boris to finish the job.
Don't forget, The Queen is a Brexiteer.
Brexit happens.

Brexit cannot be stopped........ "Happy Halloween"!!!!!

Are you a male or fekking ciota?

Pawian it's probably time for a rest

Boris is already starting his climb down - after saying he would not negotiate until the backstop is dropped - but now he is going to see Tusk Merkel macron and the Irish.

He knows that if he presses on he will split the Tories for ever, will start the end of the union and will go down in history as the man who killed the car. Aero and many other British businesses.

My bet is another extension, another inconclusive election and then two referenda - one for Brexit and one for Scotkand

Another option? Johnson calls everyone's bluff and calls a General Election?
Let the people decide? That's a good bet for him, because even I would think twice before voting Labour (I would of course - having no choice in the constituency of possible registration if I were in the UK...it being a straight Con-Lab switch historically)


How do you think the EU will give another extension? Not on Johnson's aggressive and confronational rhetoric, they wont. No Deal hurts the UK far more than it hurts Europe, and they will simply call his bluff.

Parliament can't decide. So let the people - and in the meantime Labour must launch a coup against Corbyn - Starmer would win a General Election in a landslide.

Well, if this is what her Royal Highness desires then everyone should fall in line! lol


Its sounds just like our Clinton Snowflakes here in the USA. Just wait until they lose again, watch them stomp their feet and cry.


What was the first election for? it didn't count, huh? Lets have a do over! Sounds, like Libtard Dems from California...lol

I know it is difficult for Americans to grasp this but supporting remain does not make you a leftist. There are many left wing people who voted leave and most wealthy working people voted remain.

Leave is highly correlated with being older, less wealthy , unemployed or on benefits and having lower education

Why didn't the first vote count ? It did, but a subsequent general election in 2017 made it impossible to deliver. Doesn't that 2017 election also count ?

Pritti Patel. Home office minister :(
Why is it that the children of immigrants are often the biggest racists out there? The biatch can just fuckk right off.

You seem to have a habit of calling everyone a racist, so why stop at "children of immigrants" and include "expats living in Poland"as well?

Youre a Brit living in Poland, making you an immigrant also, do you have any kids?

More like Panicky Patel :-)) It's just more of the clumsy efforts being made by Johnson & Co to bully the EU into reopening the Withdrawal Agreement. After the bomb in Northern Ireland yesterday, folllowing the previous days revelations regarding proposed reintroduction of a hard border by the UK, there is no way the backstop is going to be removed. And those who have influence in the USA have once again confirmed, any threat to the peace in NI means no trade deals with the UK.

rte.ie/news/world/2019/0819/1069740-schumer-trade-brexit/

My official position. The UK should go for a hard brexit and do nothing at all about the Irish border. If Eire wants to institute a hard border (or is forced to by the EU) then that is not the UK's problem.

Wow, high life for smugglers then.

A proud Irish tradition! And.... who cares? It's a border between two advanced western states, not like a border between Bulgaria and Belgium would be...

The only reason I could think of the UK wanting to close the border would be Ireland joining Schengen, thus becoming an open borders conduit into the UK (which would be massively stupid)

Remember, people who don't want a solution will not find any solution acceptable.

Also, the EU (as it exists at present) cannot, ever, under any circumstance, just let people be... it wants to insert itself between every interaction between any member state and any other country.

This seems to be the best solution to the crisis, I agree. The UK leaves, so it's not their business what the EU is going to do with their borders.

Another good solution is: Let the UK fall apart. This Brexit thing becomes more and more comical.

A few years ago I would have not liked that... now? I don't care. Let the EU carry Scotland if it wants.... (and then deal with Catalonia.. and explain why it can't leave Spain and Flanders can't leave Belgium....)

Interesting times.

Yes, so here is an even more radical proposal. If Donald Trump is ready to buy Greenland, why not persuade him to buy England instead? Wales could then be taken off the UK and adjoined to a united Ireland thus forming a completely new political entity with them called, for example, "The Celtic Republic". Scotland, of course, should go independent.

To acknowledge some sort of autonomy for England, the country should retain a special status within the US. It could continue as a kingdom, and on the death of Elisabeth II, Melania Trump may be declared a new queen of England. The hereditary throne will then be granted to the children of Donald and Melania..

I have another. Why don't you simply grow up? Better still - fix the many problems in your people's republic first, before jesting about this sceptred isle.

You wouldn't like Melania Trump as a future Queen of England?

Mafketis at least you show clarity :)))

Can you tell me one advantage of your solution ? Apart from that it respects the referendum

It would cost jobs, lives, break up the union, finish several major industries, devastate the tax base and thus make public services health and education worse, would diminish Britain's global position and increase inequality.

Can you name one positive effect ?

I respect democracy, if a population makes a bad choice I don't think they should be spared the consequences....

one positive effect:

worst case scenario : will be a good cautionary tale

best case scenario: the world won't end...

So no advantgages except being an interesting answer to a matura question in 100 years time :))

Speaking of Queen...
Does anyone here know what the woman does when she is not asleep? 16 hours a day is a lot of time to kill doing nothing.

Also, did she ever say anything that's worth repeating?

I think she hangs out on the deck of a luxury yacht, does a bit of ice hockey, bareback riding, deep sea diving, has a few journalists bumped off for a mid morning entertainment and rhen counts the money in her swiss bank.

Or maybe I am mixing her up with another undemocratic leader.

I remain agnostic, there will be a short term shock, but in the long term.... who knows?

...and I am jealous. But I still wonder if she ever said anything beyond "more tea, please" that would be worth quoting. Like, "hey, guys, what the f*ck is going on with those migrants?"

I know that you posted this as a joke and as a way to humiliate The Brits, but actually this was discussed over 50 years ago, even before Great Britain joined The EEC, as it was then called.

My personal favourite outcome for Brexit is for a free and united, self governing, Great Britain.
If The Scots are daft enough to leave The Union, that is their right.
The Northern Irish are not as daft as some Scots, but demographics may change that in the future.
The Welsh are far more canny than The Scots and Irish and will never leave the union with England.
But if the worst came to the worst I believe that a free England without the financial constraiints of paying into The EU,Scotland,NI and maybe Wales, would become an absolute powerhouse......

As for your suggestion Ziemowit, I would much prefer England to be the 51st state of America than the 27th of The EU.
Washington is far more preferable than Brussels.