Brexit 2019 and Poland

Has Johnson any chance to limit immigration from Commonwealth nations?


Good luck! You will need it... :)

Yeah, a points based system like your home country has ;-)


Thanks, but no luck required.
Just hard work and determination.

And when there are fewer jobs than the willing to work those jobs - aka unemployment - those immigrants you needed so badly when the jobs were available, will they be deported? Or dumped on welfare system funded by the natives?

That was a rhetorical question so you don't have to answer. We both know so very well that the line about the "talented immigrants" is a lie fed by the top 1% to the gullible lower 90% with the assistance of the 9% - the propaganda outlets, and the PMC's, the professional manager class maf used in one of his posts.

The bs about immigrants and work is like a ratchet wrench - once in, never out.

Our founding fathers saw todays " Liberals " coming from miles away, thats why they enacted the electoral college.

Clinton lost in an electoral Landslide ( 306-227) and it will be much greater in 2020, much more than BOJO`s shellacking of the Labor, sorry LABOUR party..lol

The EU stands to lose out post-Brexit, in terms of global export revenues, but the UK faces three, four or five times the losses - in percentage terms - in automotive, consumer, healthcare and technology and that's just a simple financial fact. Baker McKenzie did a detailed study and summed it up very succintly. The bottom line is that as Boris walks into those talks, "the EU exports a lot more broadly, to a whole host of other markets, and consequently, it is far less dependent on the UK as a market than the UK is on it."


He has no more power over the EU than he did when he agreed to the revised withdrawal agreement and compromised dramatically on all the things he said he wouldn't. Johnson entered the negotiations insisting that a customs border on the island of Ireland was an unavoidable side-effect of Brexit. He offered only selective alignment for Northern Ireland on EU agrifood regulations and his famous 'alternative arrangements'. By the time the deal was struck, he had accepted not just a regulatory and agrifood border down the Irish Sea but a customs one as well within the UK.


What do you think is the main problem - any suggestions for Boris as to how to solve it?

The Tories know this Atch,that manufacturing is going to be hit, but don't care. Their "working class appeal" ideology is far more important - because they need the vote of the bus driver, who is brainwashed into thinking that "His Lordship" has his interests at heart, and so he doesn't have to think for himself. The fact that Britain is going to be poorer doesn't worry the bus driver, until his bus service is cut of course.

Which it is, but by then it's too late.

Yes, over two years ago and that was talking about a so called "hard Brexit".
The UK is not going down that route.
It doesn't matter that the UK is only a fairly small percentage of the EU's exports.
They still export more to us than vice versa and no sensible organisation wants to lose ANY trade.
What the EU want is for the UK to stay as aligned to them as possible because they don't want a competitor on their doorstep.

As we are currently completely aligned, that is not a problem.
The EU will make a deal with the UK because it is the sensible thing to do.
Don't be so negative.........


That has not been a problem in this country for quite a while.

But how will they deal with any future alignment ? - they would have to follow the EU rules, despite not being at the table when the rules are written

I see the pound has stopped soaring by the way - it's back below the level it was before the election. The reason is obvious, a hard Brexit is back on the table due to Boris virtue signaling about how he will make further extensions illegal.

This trade deal will take years and will be much worse than the current deal. .

Pick and choose at the time.


A basic one can be done in a year.A full one will evolve over years.


Nobody knows that............ another negative voice........

Nothing has fundamentally changed in that time regarding trade. And a hard Brexit is still a definite possibility. ,


A 'basic' one is little more than a hard Brexit under another name.


The UK can't afford the luxury of faffing around for years over issues like security, justice, mutual recognition of qualifications, education, data, copyright laws, financial services, aviation and loads more.

But Miloslaw can, you see. So can some poor people ("It wont make any difference to my life!")
Clueless, and it's going to be amusing but also sad, seeing the Tories fukk it up.

@Atch
@Dougpol1
@cms neuf

I bet you were all scared of The Millenium Bug too.............. :-)
Either way, the UK is leaving now and we will see how good or bad it will be.
Let's talk next December............

It has to be done in one shot because it needs to be voted on by the parliament s of the other 27 countires - they are not going to keep coming back to vote on incremental little clauses.

How will you pick and choose which industries end up getting screwed ? Good luck with selling that to voters.

As for the millennium bug, well I was only in the early days of my career but my employers too reasonable precautions, listened to experts and gave themselves plenty of time to execute the changes needed. Have you seen Boris doing the same ?

But most people did nothing and............ nothing happened.
There were a few problems but in the main it was over hyped.

I don't know many big organizations that said y2k was a load of nonsense and should be ignored.

Yes it was overhyped but I'm not sure what a software problem 20 years ago has to do with an economic problem in 2020 except to feed your view that reflective, educated, cautious people are somehow wrong in life.

The rules should be in place BEFORE problems, not after. The after approach is so typical for the Western way of thinking - if you can call it "thinking".

The result: 20 million plus illegals in the US because the wall was not built BEFORE they came. Now, it's too late because they vote.

I don't think that at all, just that some people get carried away.
Some remainers were telling us that the problems would begin the day after if we voted leave and some leavers think no deal would be great for the UK!

Both are wrong in my opinion and the reality will be far mor mundane.

I will be defending my mince pie winners trophy tomorrow night before a jury of my peers, so will be unable to comment.
Other than, a week on, rather like a broken marriage, I cannot believe that she (Britain) would have been so bloody stupid as to back Johnson for a hands free majority.

Amazing stupidity, and I thought differently of my fellow Brits - but as you say, I clearly don't know them any more.

I assume that will be in England?

Tri-city. And my pies were voted only as runner-up, because my main competitor is prettier than me:)

Bad luck mate!

@Dougpol1
Be thankful for your dog's good looks, or you can forget runner-up position more like second from the last if you are lucky that is.

Then get yourself a drop dead gorgeous helper that is open to showing her cleavage.
Best of luck Doug and let us know how you did.

Even since BOJO won the election, its been all quiet on the libby Brexit thread?

When ya`ll gonna make a trade deal with Trump?$$$

It's estimated to take 5-6 years so y'all can check in then. By that time the three people who need to approve it - Trump, Pelosi and Boris will all be long gone.

How did you do this year Doug ?
I have been dying to find out.
Story please........

There is no story sadly johnny. Only to say that in a field of four contestants ( the rest were dancing the night away) the people at our pub quiz voted my mince pies as second - even though they were clearly the best :)) It must be my personality, or lack of:)

The photo is of mince pies cut short - they have to be at 350 degrees for 40 minutes plus - I rushed these at 35 mins, and lack of browning is what you get:(

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Joker my friend!
The "real" Brits, so-called experts, lost their loud voices and convenient propaganda material. Temporarily in hiding, but ready for a comeback.
An excellent example of things to come would be post #2785. Without admitting that their predictions were a pile of dismissive lies, now he reserves the next five years,

to belch out more "expertise." Deal with Trump is British, best road to salvation

Well next year you will have learned by your mistake and have that extra piwo while waiting for that magic 40 minutes.
Maybe next year (to make it more fair) you should have the judges (Polish I presume) taste test blind folded so as not to be bias towards a British personality.

What is in the casserole Doug?