Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

You are just being stupid with denial now delph.
Thank you Pol3 as these people minimize everything anti Muslim refugees economist invasion because they are Liberals & Muslim themselves and want to hand out HBO (Help a Brother Out) support.

Anyone can go take that internet survey to see for themselves.
The question is "Do you support the anti immigration march in Katowice ?"
tak means yes..........
92% of the people responding said YES !
So let the Liberals & Muslim brothers deny some more that 92% is a minority of what the Polish people think.
Not to mention several of my Polish friends that live in that area have told me that same thing for weeks now.
"We don't want Muslim and Islamic influence in our culture."

Tha same happens here. Anti muslim demonstrations were big and a couple of hundred left tard traitor filth came and started violance and burning the Aussie flag. Police had to step in. It all looked rigged and the news reports were rigged and simpleton lies. This is how you know you live in a pseudo democracy. We all suspect the leftards were sent to confront and stir up trouble by the government but not proven. It's important to stop them before they take hold like here because once they do you end up with fake carefully divisive news reports and lots more. I actually don't know a single person who supports that here but yet here we are with more of them coming. By holding polish government to account now it may be possible to stop these same dirty traitors surfacing there.

No, Johnny. I live here, I know who is marching on the streets, and it's a fringe nationalist movement. 5,000 people in a metropolis of at least 2 million is pathetic by all accounts.


Which is pretty meaningless, given that the kind of person likely to participate in said march will sit there clicking "yes" repeatedly online.


What part of "5,000 turned up in a metropolis of at least 2 million" are you struggling with?

There are a lot of gritty, tough, blue-collar mining areas in the GOP - Myslovice, Zabrze and so on - yet they could only attract 5,000 people against Muslims on a warm Saturday?

The reality is that people aren't anti-Muslim, but rather anti-paying for it. The amount of people that are anti-Muslim in Poland are marginal and no political party with more than 1% of support is behind such a thing.

By the way, there's more and more Muslims coming to Poland every year.

get over yourself delph, you are ONE opinion.


You are going to minimize anything and everything that blows your boat out of the water son.


No delph, only one vote per ip: number but again, minimize the facts. (Go try to vote more than once)


well ya, most were out with their families on picnics on a day like this meaning over 5,000 was tremendous !


No delph, you are struggling with he truth again.


Again you are wrong delph, the anti numbers are growing daily (92%) while being educated that these people's culture allows them to rape children, wipe with their bare hand, on a mission to kill Christians and just about every other detestable sub human thing imaginable.

The Polish want no part of it. You being from Scotland may feel different from how the Poles feel.


That is the voice of the Polish government so their "allowance $$$$" doesn't get cut off by Merkel.
The voice of 92% of the people as we see says just the opposite.

That opinion is based on the reality.


There's nothing else to say about these demonstrations. To only get 5,000 people on the street suggests that it's just a fringe issue.


Proxies are easy to use. I could tell a story or two about them.


You obviously don't know Poland if you think that people go on picnics.


I live here. What part of that are you struggling to comprehend?


Nice of you to label an entire culture like that.


Except the Poles don't care, as witnessed by 100-200,000 Chechen Muslim refugees being accepted.


Wrong. It's the voice of the universities that need high paying non-EU students, as well as the voice of business that needs educated labour.


92% online really means nothing. I could put a poll online suggesting that Poles want to murder Jews and get a 92% result easily.

5,000 people turning up in Katowice in a metropolis of 2m+ suggests only one thing - it's a fringe view supported by people on the fringe of politics.

Johnny, here's a clue : these marches are supported by exactly 0 members of the Polish parliament and senate. They have never won a seat (Korwin-Mikke did in the European Parliament, but as part of Nowa Prawica which was a broader right wing, less reactionary grouping. He was unsurprisingly expelled from NP.) in parliament, and thus he's a fringe figure in Polish politics.

Maybe it's different over the pond, but here, it tends to be minority groupings that take to the streets.

delph, here's a clue back,
we are not talking about the bought and paid for government with a ring in their nose.
We are talking about the Polish PEOPLE who want to keep their culture.
The Polish people have grown leaps and bounds since communism and are no longer in the dark with as much propaganda.
They are able to think and act for themselves.


No, it's the same all over with limp wristed pu$$ies sitting at home yelling, ME TOO ME TOO while the people with guts and fortitude are out marching for what they believe in.

How do they do it in Scotland ?
I haven't seen Lion Heart in a long time now.

Any prove of that?


PiS are against islamic immigrants and they will be the majority in sejm soon


Stop pretending to be daft, it only accepts one click from one IP address.

Dude, you are right about that, but it doesn't mean that the majority of Poles wants to accept muslim refugees. Ask yourself a question how many Polish politicians support them? Almost nobody, apart from some PO and gov. members.

Homosexual politicians support them like Legierski and Biedroń :-) traditionally being progressive is more important for them than being gay, poor gay people being pushed off the high buildings by islamists :-/

Make it about 80% say 79% people who do not want Muslims in the country. Why are you denying reality?

Even if people don't demonstrate (in Poland no tradition), I seriously doubt that most Poles are in favor of taking in refugees. Among all (Polish) people that I know (all urban educated higher middle class, in generally supporting PO and I don't want to even imagine the feelings in Polska B), there is no one who is. In Western European countries where people are much more tolerant and open, most people are against taking in refugees so how the h...ll Poles who are not tolerant and not open would be in favor? Let's be serious!

Most probably the current Polish government has "accepted" not ony for fear of being deprived of money from EU but also (and mainly) because in case of PiS government in 4 weeks, the deal shall be cancelled and Poland shall take in no refugees. EK is aware of that and therefore her ok is pure hypocrisy.

From talking to friends both in the UK and Poland, I haven't noticed that they are particularly anti-Muslim.
What I have noticed from conversations and social media, is that they are resentful of the fact that these refugees in their eyes, are going to be given money and somewhere to live for effectively doing nothing, when there are homeless Poles that need help, and pensioners on very poor incomes after working hard all their lives. So I suppose you could say that not all Poles are necessarily generous of spirit, but that doesn't make them specifically anti-Muslim.

I have heard exactly the same from fellow Brits who are resentful of accepting refugees too.

Well, it's obvious to the most people, progressives have such a interesting mental state them makes them deny obvious things, best to ignore them.

@Wulkan: I consider myself progressive but it does not prevent me from seeing reality and to accept it. Denying a reality does not change it ;). Poland is among the very least tolerant and open societies in Europe (at least) so it is LOGICAL that most Poles are against taking in refugees. Of course, the money factor is very important but I believe the no.1 problem for Poles is that those refugees are muslims.... For Poles, muslims = (would be) terrorists. Sad but true!

For the sake of argument, let's say that's all completely true. Doesn't it follow that sending a bunch of muslims to Poland is not a very good idea and not in the interests of either Polish people (or the muslims who'll be sent there against their will)?

What's the reason for sending them to Poland at all?

We facing challenge to show our humanity and at the same time we facing threat to our way of life and even to our very racial survivor. How to balance these things, is a million dollar question right now.

This is exactly what Johnny doesn't understand. It's not about their religion or their beliefs, it's about the fact that they'll get help when others in need won't. The migrants didn't do themselves any favours by their behaviour on the way - the scenes at Horgos/Roszke were widely distributed, and you can see that they have very little respect in general - and it's no surprise that Poles and others don't want them as a result.


Both incorrect. PiS aren't against Muslim immigration (only against taking refugees) and they won't be the majority no matter how hard you try.

There's a huge difference between being against taking refugees and being against Muslims.

Not just terrorism, Poles are anti-islam because anything that comes along with islam is anti Poles and those things are nicely covered in the video below.

youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=jIaGWURONRU

The Poles really are the biggest bunch of hypocritical xenophobes on the planet.

You don't want Islam making its way into Polish culture? Well, most Brits did not want ******* Polish culture making its way over here but we had no choice after becoming part of the EU. YOU ARE ******* PART OF THE EU. Do your ******* bit and accept your share of refugees.

For the Poles it is always take, take, take and give nothing back.

Wulkan, just another ******* racist in that video.

I am a white christian and know plenty of muslims and plenty of poles. I would trust the muslims over the Poles any time. Not all muslims want to kill you. Indian and Pakistani muslims have integrated into British society for decades and integrate much better than the arrogant ******* Poles ever do.

Yes, we all know you are very jealous about it.


Yes they are - 3:10




It starts to be boring but who will be then? yawn...

That's Kaczyński playing the populist card as per usual. In reality, they will do absolutely nothing about it.

(speaking of which, he really does look old. The last 5 years really have aged him...)


No-one. Majorities are nearly unheard of under the D'Hondt system.

if Muslims are so good for your country,stop bit.ching about Poland not wanting them..take em all and say thank you.
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Count yourself lucky that Poles do not dish out what they being given.

I teach a fair amount of students (over 100) who are mostly all educated, progressive and have money, I have discussed this issue with pretty much all of them. I can think of two who I would describe as being "for" taking in refugees. The rest range from extreme "we should re-open Auschwitz" to reasonable "We should help them, but by giving money to camps and to stop the war in Syria" I'm certain that any figures showing 50 % support or whatever are completely manufactured.

@Sparks: same for me! I do not know one single Pole in favor of taking in refugees and they are all educated, higher middle class and generally supporting PO. Last Monday I was talking about the issue with 16-17 kids from 2 "elite" lyceum in Warsaw and at least 98% of them were against, 2 among them did even demontrate with the "anti" on 13.9. I was shocked because I had thought that youngsters would be more open and more generous. The kids come from - only - 2 "lyceum" but they told me that the big majority of Polish youth think the same way they do.

Exactly, Next we'll hear that that actually this huge outpouring of support comes from "Polska B " :)

It's surprising how many Polish hate gay's and Muslims and it wasn't so long ago old Adolphe marched his army through Poland, put you to sleep and cooked you up good style.

Ah well, some people never learn.

I think it's worth acknowledging that most of the anti sentiment comes from the Polish perception of being poor, as well as somewhat widespread anger towards Germany for having caused this in the first place.

@Delph: am talking about what those (weatlhy from "elite" Warsaw "lyceum") kids told me last Monday. Such kids all come from PO supporting families.

Yep, it's not a surprise in the slightest. They might be wealthy (even by European standards), but they still perceive themselves as poor compared to others and so others should pay.

What I've noticed is that Kopacz has more or less negotiated what most people feel - that camps should be established much further away, and that there should be far stronger control of the EU external borders. Most people - rightfully - do not want just "anyone" turning up here.