Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees

That is true - unlike Germany or even Greece, Poland has enough unskilled low wage workers to work in fields and work as nannies and caretakers. It doesn't need to look for a labor class outside. The thing is with France, Belgium, and Germany - it already had a lot of immigrants before this migrant crisis. The ones that have come did not come to assimilate and work but rather force their views on others and collect welfare. If they were merely escaping war, they would've been fine staying in one of the safe transit countries like Turkey.

It's kind of funny because I was talking with some of my Brit friends a while back and we were joking how like 8-10 years ago Poles were looked as the Mexicans of Europe. The Brits did not like us at all - they looked at us a bunch of foreigners that were out to take the construction and other low skill jobs, lower wages, and take advantage of the welfare system. Well, now for most Brits the opinion has totally changed 10 years later - they view Poles as European brothers that are Christian, God-fearing and by in large hard working people who have assimilated into the British society and are a net benefit on the system.

One word: FEMINISM

And it's not only Sweden.

The other countries in the West such as Germany, France, and Britain are (like Sweden) extremely feminist (militant feminist is a more apt description) and correspondingly they have also been the most impulsive and reckless when it comes to their de facto policies of unchecked immigration.

the zionist plan is to destroy europe's homogamy and financially.

See Germany

ISIS and terror is a zionist tool

make no mistake about it my friend it is about the globalist facist plan

IMO I also think the main issue is feminism. And I think it was deliberately encouraged by Marxist at the University level and more precisely mass media

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"In the first majority-Muslim US city"

- When the Hamtramck native left to join the Air Force in 1972, the city was widely referred to as "Little Warsaw." When he returned from the military in 1995, "the Muslims were here," said Bugaj, who is of Polish and Native American descent.

- While the city's Polish Catholic population has shrunk from 90 percent in 1970 to about 11 percent today
- Many longtime residents point to 2004 as the year they suspected that the town's culture had shifted irrevocably. It was then that the city council gave permission to al-Islah Islamic Center to broadcast its call to prayer from speakers atop its roof.

- "Today, we show the Polish and everybody else," said Ibrahim Algahim in an address to fellow Muslims that was captured on video.

"Today, we show the Polish and everybody else"

No surprises for me.

The steps of their action is:

1st: Come in small numbers but steadily, saying that they are peaceful muslims and that Islam is the religion of peace.

2nd: Ask for more rights for their faith, saying that they just want to be represented like other faiths.

3rd: When achieving numbers around 25 to 30%, they ask for their own zones to be exclusively muslim, saying that christian or other religious symbols disrespect them if is inside their districts (while at step 2 they would complain if any other person said the same about Islam).

4rd: After achieving 50%, start the process of subjugate and openly humiliate any other religion or atheist.

So yes, this douche already reached step 4.

Which is the step that all the turkish muslims of this forum want to Poland too.

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Hate speech and racial tension escalating in Poland?

Radio Poland:


thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/243728,Racial-tension-escalating-in-Poland-Human-rights-ombudsman

"Racial beating" sounds strange.

Also much more clannish, secretive, and supremacist (i.e. Talmud, PM Menchen's speeches) - Poles could learn something from this group - especially unity.

Like you, then?

Yes most traders, shopkeeps, money lenders, merchants, goldsmiths, jeweler's, etc. Not too many were in physically intensive agriculture jobs as they tended to settle in cities. One of the reasons why the Jews were kicked out of one place from the next is due to unreasonable hysteria (yes, a lot of was unreasonable) like blaming Jews for sacrificing Christian children during Passover en masse (yes, there were a few cases but overall it was exaggerated). However, the money lending, usury, and after the church became more aware of what was in the Talmud - that's when the expulsions became more common. Poland not only took in the Jews but protected them during WW2 - yet Israel wished to sue Poland for not doing enough... Shaking down Germany wasn't enough for them.

Actually, there is a large Jewish immigration going on now to Israel - especially from France and to a lesser extent from Ukraine. There is much propaganda that the Israeli government shows on TV in Europe getting Jews to move back. It has been revealed that the government offers these families and individuals housing, money, living allowances and other wonderful things - especially if they move to the illegal settlements. The Israeli government is stoking fears, especially in France, that Europe is no longer safe for Jews due to the migrant crisis to get them to move to the settlements in order to create a Jewish majority in the illegally occupied lands. Thousands have been moving over the past 3 years with immigration especially picking up now. The majority of these people take advantage of the government's generous packages for moving to the settlements. They've even expanded the definition of what a Jew by blood is - apparently you only need to have at least 1 Jewish grandparent to qualify and don't need to be a practicing Jew either. To the Israeli government, as far as immigration, marriage licenses, etc. being a Jew by blood is far more important than being a Jew by religion. The Jews aren't very accepting of converts even if they've gone through all the steps, learned Hebrew, can recite the Torah, and know the kosher laws - they still will not be considered a 'real Jew.' Perhaps it differs a bit more with the reform sect though.


I've actually never stated that Poles or whites are the master race or anything of the sort. Actually, in a previous I specifically stated that IQ levels of Asians on average are actually higher than whites.

Quite frankly, I love my people, I love my country, I love my religion, my heritage, my customs, and my Slavic race a whole - and we under attack from many many fronts. We are told to accept foreign customs (again, tolerance is no longer enough), welcome people who have totally different views, religions, and language than us, and forced to accept ideas that are totally against what our customs and traditions have been for generations.

Like I said - perhaps Poles ought to take a lesson from Israeli Supremacism and Zionism though... yet, if we used the exact same rhetoric that Isreali politicians use to disallow gay marriage, immigrants, etc. we would be totally criticized by everyone. Yet, Israel always gets a free pass.

One wonders if Wyborcza will also block out the hate industry of PO/Petru & Co. The concept przemysł nienawiści was coined to describe the Platformer's 8-year anti-PiS slander campaign.

To be honest, I was pleasantly suprised that Radio Poland reported this. Criticizing their own country in public is not something that Poles do very often.

You really, really ought to stop using this. Most Poles feel no affinity whatsoever to the concept of "Slavic race" regardless of politics - in fact, it's usually only something mentioned by Russia sympathisers.


It would make sense, if it wasn't for the fact that Polish traditions and customs are totally different in different parts of Poland.

I still don't understand why EU has to accept these countries and redistribute them - this is a crisis that occurred in the Arab world with Sunnis fighting Shias, like always. This conversation should've never occurred in the first place - these migrants should've been distributed throughout Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, Qatar, U.A.E., Turkey and even Kazakhstan - countries that are fairly well off and have customs, languages and religions that are way similar to that of Syrians and Iraqis.

The problem is - these Arab leaders are smarted than our multi kulti liberal politicians. I remember reading one source talking about how many refugees Saudi Arabia accepted - it was like 8 or 11 or some really low number... not even in the 100's. Yet they want Poland to accept thousands? The Saudis say no - we are scared of terrorists we don't want terror attacks in our country and somehow the world politicians seem to be alright with Saudi Arabia's answer but when Poland says it, they're labeled xenophobes, right wingers, islamaphobes, etc.


Not really.


I was born in Poland and have family all over Poland. I can tell you that my family in Wroclaw celebrates Wigilia in essentially the same exact way as my family in Gdansk, Poznan, and Warszawa. Perhaps the east has a bit different traditions where it gets close to the border of Russia and there's small groups of Tatars - but by en large Polish customs, tradition, language, and religion is very homogenous throughout the country.

You will find that Krakow, Warszawa, Wroclaw, and the tri-cities are all majority Polish, Roman Catholic, speak Polish, and practice Polish traditions and customs. Yes, there are small groups of Lemkos, Silesians, Kashubs, Germans, Vietnamese, etc. but by en large Polish is very ethnically and religiously homogenous - thank God as it is one of the last countries in Europe with a healthy economy that still is.

Yes really. Remember that the country was only unified as a nation post-WW2 - which was only 71 years ago.

A splendid example - brilliantmaps.com/poland-santa


That's because of the post-WW2 pushing of monocultural Poland by the Communists. What you're looking at is essentially something that was created for the masses. Before WW2, Poland had a far richer mix of tradition and culture, so you can't really claim the current traditions/culture to be in any way historical.


Except there are no real singular Polish traditions and customs. You can see it with food and folk clothing, but not only.


Healthy economy? Most Poles would probably argue that point, given how poor they feel.

Compared to the rest of the world - the economy is very healthy by GDP terms and growth - we rank around 20/21st place in terms of GDP compared to the rest of the world. The world bank classifies Poland as a high income economy. Yes, the people aren't as rich as the Baltic countries, Sweden, Austria, or Germany but compared to many of the other countries in the region we are far better off - especially if we're looking at Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, etc. Poland is definitely not poor though.

That is a good point though - as you claim that most Poles feel poor, they sure ought to first take care of themselves then - not people from thousands of miles away who have a way different culture - especially when there are so many other countries with a culture more similar to theirs that can take them in where the citizens don't feel poor like Poland's do like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, U.A.E., Qatar, etc.


Stupid example - on the top it shows 'Who Brings Christmas in Poland - Well It's Not Only Santa.' The guy who wrote this article is this teenage subcompact driving douchebag - spifczyk.tumblr.com/aboutme I've flushed turds bigger than him, and his car. He writes on the top of his page 'On this blog I write about stuff that interests no one but me.' well, at least he got that right - no one cares and it sucks that I'm the one to point out now how retarded his article on the 'different gift givers in Christmas in Poland are'

For one it shows that by far Swiety Mikolaj is by far the most dominant person who brings your present according to this. 2nd, Gwiazdzor is the same person as Swiety Mikolaj - it's a different name for him and is more popular around Poznan and amongst Kashubs and those regions. Even his appearance of carrying presents and knowing which children are good and bad are almost identical to the typical Swiety Mikolaj. Even the tradition of Wigilia doesn't differ much in the Kashub or Silesian parts. They have the most subtle, minor differences to the 90% of Poles. Furthermore, there's only about 500k Kashubs in all of Poland with 1/10 of those actually speaking the language. Even those 500k people more closely resemble the 35 million Poles than any other ethnic group like German, Austrian, Jewish, etc.

The person who actually hands out the presents, is called the 'Gwiazka' - If a Polish kid told his grandma he wants presents from Aniolek (which literally means angel), he'd probably get slapped, and then receive a lump of coal - it's Swiety Mikolaj, always has been, always will be. 3rd - this only proves my point that Poland is Roman Catholic through and through as these are all references to Vigilia which the kid who wrote this blog appears to have mixed up.

Furthermore, Dziadek Mroz isn't some evil dude like Krankus or whatever he's called this kid is saying - he's basically the same exact thing as 'Swiety Mikolaj or 'Gwiadzor.' It's just different names for the same person. However, Dziadek Mroz, is basically the more Orthodox Russian/Belorussian/Ukranian version of Santa/St. Nicholas (Santa is based on the story of St. Nick - even Swiety Mikolaj literally means Saint Nicholas as Mikolaj translates to Nickolas) - hence why he's more popular in the eastern parts of Poland and is usually celebrated on a different day than Wigilia due to the Orthodox Calendar being different than ours.

Now if you showed a map where it showed some people saying Sinterklass or Zwarte Piet or something other figure as showing up on the map, then maybe I'd agree with you. But no, all these figures (with the exception of Dziadek Mroz) are Swiety Mikolaj, Santa Claus, St. Nick, whatever you want to call him - a big fat dude who gives out presents on Wigilia.


First off, the monoculture that the Communists pushed wasn't the traditional Polish Roman Catholic culture - but rather one with mostly a Soviet agenda, hence the Russification of schools and culture as a whole. Even I had to learn Russian the first year or two I went to school in Poland. So no, the Communists did push a monoculture - but it was a Soviet utopian one, not a traditional Polish one. The Commie authorities permitted some forms of Roman Catholicism although they knew that it would be the undoing of the secular society they were trying to create. JPII's visit and the Catholic church as a whole is what gave people the spiritual edge and unification to unite against the godless Russian-puppet authorities.


First off, Poland became a nation after WW1 - not WW2. The borders changed after WW2, but the country existed for some 20 years prior to the start of WW2. Granted it was a shaky country, but it was strong enough to defeat the Soviets from 1919-1921. That actually set the Bolshevik plans for international revolution back by at least 20 years according to even certain prominent British historians. Prior this, Poland was in 3 partitions and essentially ceased existing but nonetheless Polish tradition, culture, and art flourished even if it was Poles living in other lands. Sorry to break it to you, but the majority of Polish art is about Catholicism and Poland's history - especially during the commonwealth. One of the only paintings I can thank of off the top of my head is the reception of the Jews that depicts a different religious group or a different race in Poland. The vast majority of our culture's works of art are to do with Polish Roman Catholic identity and Poles as an independent group with their own unique language.

Which brings me to my next point - Second, the vast majority of Poles are Roman Catholic - 90%+ right now and Catholicism has been the dominant religion throughout Poland's history. Yes, there were some Protestants, Muslims and Jews, but again the majority of Polish society identified as Roman Catholic. Polish and Roman Catholic are inseparable. That is where the majority of our culture and tradition comes from - from views on family, marriage, to even days off of work during the calendar. Even the Czech culture, although very homogenous, has is more diverse and includes different religions and brings in other influences which reflects in the identification of its citizens - some Catholic, some Protestant, some totally atheist/agnostic.

I don't expect you to understand everything about Poland or it's history, culture, etc. as you from Western Europe which is fine. Even if you get a PhD in Polish studies or Polish language, you will still not understand the things that unite Poles, define our culture, and define our way of thinking - which to many seems xenophobic, racist, sexist, outdated, conservative, etc. However, if you did have a PhD in Polish studies, or talked to someone who does, he or she would tell you that Roman Catholicism, our religion for over 1000 years, has played the largest role on Poland's traditions and customs in the modern era.

@ AdrianK9 = well done. Good, firm responses. Reject the confused and half baked, psy-opted, multiculti, self hating fart heads. To have what you like and to like what you have, and to stand up and fight detractors who would destroy everything.

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Just a point : but if you actually knew Poland, you'd know that if you put two Poles in a room, they'd find ways to argue and divide themselves. The scorn that many people in Wielkopolska have towards people in Podlasie is clear for all to see, as is the scorn that they have towards their more urbane peers in Western Poland. Then you're forgetting the growing sense of identity among Silesians with their own language...so on and so on. It's skewed a bit by the border shift, but people in Poland tend to be very loyal to their historic areas.

The "unity" that you talk about is very much a product of post-WW2 communism and not much else. Before that, the concept of "Polishness" was very weak in many areas, as you can see from the 1931 census question on language. In fact, you can see that the only thing that eventually unified Poland was the trauma of hostile acts by foreigners - Wielkopolska remembers well the oppression towards schoolkids, the Western/Northern territories were united by the horror of what happened in their homelands. Combine that with some very strong nationalism post-WW2 and you've got your answer.

A splendid example was the "Exhibition of the Recovered Territories" - which was nothing but crude propaganda designed to convince people from Kresy that they were returning to their ancestral homeland.


Oh no. The Communists were very keen on pushing the idea of Poland - it's why relations were so terrible with East Germany, because a lot of the nationalism completely ignored the presence of minorities in Poland. It may have been a queer sort of nationalism, but it was nationalism all the same.

As for Poland in the interbellum, that was such a patchwork of people and religions that the concept of Poland was pretty weak, hence the need to resort to some poor manipulations in the 1931 census.

Facts, figure and establsihed traditions make no impression on our anarchic, fuzzy-brained liberal leftists. If there is one cross-dressser or other misfit in a crowd of 1 or 2 thousand, one shouldn't be surprised if they start campaigning for a sweeping reform of the country's public-lavatory infrastructure and even a change in the constitution which does not explicitly safeguard the human rights of transvestites. White, multi-culti liberal leftists are out only to undermine, disintegrate and destroy the values and traditons of society's decent majority in the name of their off-the-wall PC utopias.

Why is a thread about the EU and refugees the right place to post about part of what appears to be an obsession of yours?

This thread has veered from refugees to the superioty of Jews, the role of Catholicism in Poland, the 1931 Polish census, Christmas gift-givers, JPII's visits to Poland and many things in between which somehow you never accused of being off-topic. That approximates a normal conversation where people often go off on different tangents. Only obsessed, cerebrally limited, letter-of-the-law sticklers ever find that disagreable. The the last post was quite relevant, since it drew a parallel between mutli-culti fanatics and supporters of other tiny fringe groups, as the ultimate goal of promoting peripheral minorities is to disrupt and undermine society.


St Nicholas Day is 6th December when the saintly old bishop leaves sweets and treats under kids' pillows or in their shoes. On Christmas Eve in Silesian

family circles isn't it the Dzieciątko (Baby Jesus) that brngs gifts, all the Americanised TV commercials notwithstanding?

Plus one.


Hopefully Poland will come up with a way to tell the EU that Poland prefers to keep their culture then sell their souls to the devil.

I have read many posts here yet have yet to read a single one by a Polish native in favor of accepting refugee's.


Well said, very well said without mentioning the EU, Merkel's name or the fuzzy-brained liberal leftists expats that post here.

Years ago a Polish Americna friend was travelling for the first time to the Middle East and flying over the monotous, sandy desserts. Suddenly he saw a large green expanse. He was told that was Israel. The Saudis are rolling in dough and could easily carve a homeland for the refugees out of their vast dessert expanses. With proper irrigation and development it could become a veritable paradise on earth. The only thing lacking is the political will.

A Yazidi teenager who was held as a sex slave by Isis says she was kidnapped and trafficked by the British jihadist and likely masked executioner Siddhartha Dhar.

So we now have a new British jihadist executioner to take the place of the dead one.
Maybe the British elite forces will go after and kill this guy since he fled the British court system.
Letting these "refugee's" into Europe to brainwash and recruit will destroy Europe when these 'multiculturists' multiply and take over European cultures.
Keep Poland Polish.

That is very, very true. I've discussed this before. There was one thread I started that stated 'what don't you like about Poland/Polish people' and the divisiveness and infighting is my biggest beef. I also stated Poles could certainly learn from the Jews how to be united and fight against common enemies instead of looking as other Poles as our competition.

Also, I do know Poland. I am born and raised in Poland, have family all over Poland as well as the rest of Europe (UK, Germany, Netherlands, Russia, etc.). I am fluent in Polish, celebrate Polish traditions, have Polish citizenship, travel to Poland regularly, and own land in Poland as well. I think I know my own country and my own people pretty well.


That's not true. For one, Poles were very unified before the post-WW2 communist era you speak of. One example I can cite is Armia Krajowa and the Polish underground state. It took a lot of unity to organize an underground state and lead the uprisings.

You are right though. Poles were very unified during Communism - it was one of the rare times that they were, (other modern era examples would be perhaps AK)- namely unified in fighting Communism through Solidarnosc and religious undertones.

It seems as whenever there is disaster or Poland as a whole is under threat, Poles are able to put aside their differences and unite. Oftentimes, religious figures are at the center of the leadership due to the importance of Roman Catholic tradition in Poland. Even people like myself that aren't 100% religious and don't believe all the dogmas still respect the Roman Catholic church and listen to their opinions and their voice as they have shaped Poland's history for over 1000 years.


Yes, as these were post WW1/pre WW2 borders, for example cities like Danzig had a German Lutheran majority. Also, your using a census over 80 years old. Since that time, all the cities in post ww2, modern day Poland are majority Polish Roman Catholic. The figures I cited, which are only 4 years old, argue that most Poles - 36 million out of the 38 million identify their ethnonationality as Polish.

You are right though - prior to WW2 was much more diverse. However, that has changed after WW2.

Your arguing that Poland is so diverse and has all these different cultures and people living there when that clearly isn't the case - only about 1.4 million people out of the 38 million don't identify as Polish as their primary ethnicity with 800k of those 1.4 million declaring non-Polish ethnonationality together with Polish one - Kashubs, Silesians, Germans, etc. So even if someone declares themselves a Silesian Pole - that'd still place them in that category. (According to the Polish census of 2011 I posted above). Also, according to Eurobaramoter 2012 - people living in Poland identify with the following religions - Roman Catholic 91%, Orthodox 1%, Other 2%, atheist/non-believer/agnostic 5%, not stated 1%. Sorry, but 9% of religions other than Roman Catholic don't exactly make Poland a melting pot of religions. As far as languages - Polish 97.8%, other and unspecified 2.2% (2002 census), nor does this make Poland a melting pot of languages. The main language outside of Polish is Kashub with about 100k speakers followed by German with 96k.

Just because there's 1000 Vietnamese living in Wroclaw doesn't make it a Vietnamese city, a significant minority, or even a diverse city. Just because Poland allowed a gay pride parade doesn't mean most Poles accept gays (as shown in the survey I posted in the lgbt thread.) You're using a tiny subset of Poland's overall population to argue that Poland is diverse, when the 90%+ of Roman Catholic Poles would argue otherwise. Actually, Saudi Arabia - thought to be a very, very homogeneous society with mostly hardcore Sunni Arabs living there, is actually more diverse than Poland since it has a much higher percentage of different ethnic groups (10 million foreign immigrants - nearly 1/3rd of the population) and religions (10-25% Shia and 1.5 million Christians). Actually, Poland is even more ethnically homogenous than it's neighbor Belarus - where Belorussians are around 83% of the population versus 96% of Poles in Poland.

You're arguing that the tiny amount of Jews, Muslims, Germans, Vietnamese, Koreans, Ukranians, etc. make Poland a diverse society. Well, the fact is these combined groups represent a tiny fraction of Poland. Yes, maybe the name of Santa Claus will differ from north to south, east to west, but the fact is the majority of them follow Wigilia traditions and have a distinctly Polish name for Santa. If Poland were as diverse as you claim, there'd

Poland is a very ethnically and religiously homogeneous country. It is not like Germany, Sweden, France, UK or even Czech Republic - and quite frankly most Poles want to keep it that way. That is one thing that at least most Poles can agree on - we want to keep Poland a Polish Roman Catholic country.

So no, most Poles do not want Muslims in their countries. They even negotiated with the EU about the whole migrant crisis and eventually agreed to let some Iraqis in - but Christian ones.

csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2016/0310/We-know-our-reality-Why-Poland-is-cool-on-the-EU-refugee-crisis

Even here, the people who wish to lend a helping hand only want to accept Christian Syrians and Iraqis. This shows how important even Christianity is in Poland's decision to take in migrants.

Again, why should Poland accept people it doesn't want? At least people are reaching out to Christian families, which I applaud them for as these groups are amongst the most persecuted in Syria and Iraq. Actually, Many Syriac Christians said that their lives were fine under Assad and claim that under his leadership generally all the different religious groups lived in peace. It wasn't until the Sunni majority started clamoring for greater representation that the situation went to crap.

Don't forget the Szare Szeregi. That generation of young people were not out for fun or for themselves. They knew the meaning of dedication, commitment and patriotism and willingly fought for their country as dictated by their heart (z potrzeby serca).

Indeed. Ffrom everything I've read on them, they were the kind of people that were genuine patriots. They didn't need to tell everyone about how patriotic they are, but rather they lived as patriots. Many self-proclaimed patriots in modern Poland would do well to copy the Szare Szeregi idea of public service - for instance, didn't they set up some sort of postal service during the Uprising?

One of the things that makes me so angry about the AK leadership is how they sent them to their death in Warsaw while they feasted in London.

I read this only a few days ago - polishcenter.net/?p=428 - it really shows how genuine Polish patriots then valued being well educated and the creative arts. What went wrong, Poland? :(

Sorry Polonius, that's one of those 'patriotic outliers that doesn't represent Poland's liberal values' to some of the posters here.

These guys pick a tiny subset of the population and apply it to the whole. They'll say things like 'Poland already has Muslims living there' and point to the 30k Tatars which are actually very well assimilated and peaceful.

The point is, most Poles simply don't want economic migrants in Poland. The ones that they will take, if they're forced to take them in, are Syriac and Iraqi Catholics.

Of course they do. Ukrainians are taken in droves to do the jobs that Poles don't want to do.


Actually, most of us consider them to be a genuine example of Polish patriotism. They're a world apart from the average bald moron that goes around shouting bad things about Jews and Muslims. I imagine the average cultured/well educated scout would never have said a bad word about fellow Poles.

There's less than 38k Ukranians in Poland as of the 2011 census... I don't think that's considered 'droves.' There's over 3x more Germans (around 150k) than Ukranians in Poland actually. You are right though - there are Ukranians that come to Poland to work but this isn't some great amount of people.

Again, you're using a very small group of people to describe the overall situation.

There's very few jobs that Poles don't want - even in their own country. Poles will work security in a mall for $3 an hour and be happy. The Poles abroad take the jobs westerners don't want especially construction, nannying, house cleaning at least in the US anyway.

That number is way out of date. Try over 500,000 in 2015. As Poland has developed, so has the need for workers. Unemployment rates are effectively 0% in major cities in Western Poland - the unemployment that exists is the kind of unemployment that doesn't want to work.

dw.com/en/szydlo-exaggerated-on-refugees-from-ukraine-in-poland/a-19080717


What are you talking about? It's nearly impossible to find Poles to do certain jobs - there's a reason why the best nannies and cleaners in Warsaw are Ukrainian, there's a reason why it's all Ukrainians working in physical agricultural jobs, there's a reason why construction companies are hiring lots of Ukrainians - the Poles simply don't want to do those jobs anymore.

It's pretty common these days to hear Ukrainian and Russian spoken on the streets in major Polish cities.