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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 6



PolAmKrakow
14 May 2023  #31

@Novichok
Both thanks. Two passports. Certainly not a Putinazi supporter. Little Vlad is a weak man mentally. Clearly the invasion was a real fvck up. Smart people admit they fvcked up, and then move on. This retard just keeps going because he isn't man enough to admit he fvcked up and then try to make things right. Now, hundreds of thousands of Russian men are being killed because little Vlad cant admit he fvcked up. And this is a man you and other admire? These decisions and his position are supported? Anyone supporting this school yard bully will end up just like him, proven to be a little biatch when someone comes to beat his a$$. Russia is losing to Ukraine. Again, let it sink in. Russia, the mighty fvcking Russia is getting slaughtered by little Ukraine. Like a chicken farm Russia just keep lining up to be killed. It would actually be funny if it wasnt true.

PolAmKrakow
15 May 2023  #32

More gains for Ukraine around Bakhmut. More officers deaths being reported by Russia. Now leaked document show Prigozhin offered to sell out Russian army positions to Ukraine in exchange for mercy on his troops in the field. All the while more and more Russians are being killed daily. Little Vlad cant be happy with Wagner being open to selling out his army. Clearly Prigozhin isnt happy if he is willing to do it. I think someone might be falling off a balcony or get run over by a tank by mistake pretty soon. Such a great culture Russia has, like a pack of wild dogs. Anyone who would want this culture for themselves is fvcking retarded.

cms neuf
15 May 2023  #33

See the French have also seen which way the wind is blowing and decided to send more weapons. Bakhmut is now a trade fair for the demo of modern weaponry. I doubt that many African and Latin dictators will be ordering any Udmurtian arms in future having seen how crap they are.

So yet another Udmurtian industry has been destroyed by this idiotic invasion. Don't worry though - I think the Amateur **** business is still a world leader

Novichok
15 May 2023  #34

Get back on topic and leave your personal preferences out of things.

I would like to read your predictions...How will this war end? This is a good-faith question.

I have to be honest with you

The same question for you, Bobko.

Bobko
15 May 2023  #35

The same question for you, Bobko.

I think it will end in a frozen conflict, that will sit in Europe like a festering wound for another 20-30 years. Sanctions against Russia will not be lifted, and she will learn to live her life outside the Western system. This will have unpredictable consequences for the Western system itself, as well as the globe.

That status of the frozen conflict will probably be a rump-Ukraine subsidized by the West, and another 20-25% under Russian control. If Ukraine collapses this year, and Russia is able to push further - then I think the number may be 30% or more. Odessa would be the big target beyond Zaporozhye, Kherson, and Nikolayev. Cutting off the Ukrainians from the sea would mean being in a much more advantageous position in any future war against them.

Novichok
15 May 2023  #36

Would Russia accept NATO in the rest of Ukraine? Or would Russia actually want Western NATO-free Ukraine as a buffer?

Bobko
15 May 2023  #37

Would Russia accept NATO in the rest of Ukraine?

For sure not, the nukes will come back out then. They may still come into play this time around, depending on how bad we do. That's part of the perverse calculus the West must take into account. That is, "Do we want the Russians to do so badly they feel they have no choice but to resort to the Big Boom?".

GefreiterKania
15 May 2023  #38

Russians to do so badly they feel they have no choice but to resort to the Big Boom

What exactly would you nuke? Just out of curiosity. Kiev? Odessa?

Should the Americans have nuked Hanoi, out of anger that they "did badly" in Vietnam?

Bobko
15 May 2023  #39

@GefreiterKania

No, we use the tactical nukes against Ukrainian lines, and then advance through a nuclear wasteland.

Novichok
15 May 2023  #40

Should the Americans have nuked Hanoi, out of anger that they "did badly" in Vietnam?

No. The US should have given Hanoi a warning on Day 1 and nuke it on Day 2 at the start of that stupid no-war war.

Russia haters here forget that Russia has no plans to be treated the way peaceful and cuddly NATO treated Serbia, Iraq, and Afganistan.

On the other hand, if Serbia, Iraq, and Afghanistan didn't invade Florida and Scotland...

No, we use the tactical nukes against Ukrainian lines,

Tactical or not, Russia's fate is not negotiable. Just as the fate of the US.

PolAmKrakow
15 May 2023  #41

@Novichok
I think that no matter what it is a negotiated peace. If Ukraine can cut off the land bridge to Crimea Russia is in deep trouble negotiating. If the counter offensive is not so successful I think Russia gets to keep Crimea in a negotiated peace, D & L become demilitarized areas in some way.

The counter offensive will be the deciding factor. Ukraine could potentially end this before years end by cutting off Crimea and destroying the bridge on the other side. Or they could over take D & L and get the same result. Russia IMO has no way to win. They only have ways to lose. They will never take Kiev, or the whole country, and that was the objective.

Novichok
15 May 2023  #42

Thanks for your reply.
My only comment about the bridge is that Ukraine has its own objects like this that Russia spared so far - and not for the lack of info where they are or the missiles that could make them unusable. In fact, I would expect Putin to send the list to the DC and Kiev as a warning against future attepts at the bridge.

I think Russia gets to keep Crimea in a negotiated peace, D & L become demilitarized areas in some way.

...under Russian supervision. This would be my vote.

Alien
15 May 2023  #43

There won't be peace anytime soon. This war is just getting started and neither side is interested in ending the war. It will take a few more years.

PolAmKrakow
15 May 2023  #44

@Novichok
The bridge is illegal for now. It should be absolutely destroyed as soon as the land bridge is cut off. This pressure is the only thing Putin will understand. This loss is the only thing that would motivate him. Putin cant bomb Kiev's most valuable targets, because under his reasons for invading, those are valuable Russian historical assets. Stop thinking anyone fear Putin or Russia anymore, because no one does. D & L would fall under UN control if anything. Russia has no way of coming out of this with more than Crimea. Anything else is wishful thinking.

Velund
15 May 2023  #45

The bridge is illegal for now.

Forget the word "legal". USA/UK and their lapdogs now operate within "rule-based order", not "international law" anymore. Nobody know how and where that "rules" created, so Russia sets their own rules at least on territory of former Russian Empire.

Novichok
16 May 2023  #46

The biggest mystery of this war is why NATO has not yet attacked Russians in CDL considering that - according to NATO - CDL is in Ukraine. On this basis, NATO has every right to enter CDL on Z's invitation. Once the green light goes on, it should be a walk in the park on a sunny day. Here is why...Quoting:

Russia's military spending in 2021 hit $66bn, says the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI). But even then, the US was spending $801bn a year, and other NATO members about $363bn.

That's 66 vs 801+363 billion bucks or roughly 20 times more. That's like me arm-wrestling a 10-year-old girl.

What gives?

PolAmKrakow
16 May 2023  #47

@Velund
LMFAO Russia doesn't make any rules. They are not a rule making power. Russia is the worlds biatch now. Time to recognize and accept what your country is because of Putin. There never was or will be a multipolar world. It will be bi polar with the US and China. Russia being China's new natural resource mine and garbage dump. This is the future of Russia.

@Novichok
Looks to me like Russia needs to sell more oil to keep up with the spending. Russia should be happy they only have little Ukraine to fight with on a manpower basis. NATO doesnt have a right to enter Ukraine, but they could if Ukraine asked. Only Ukraine is not a part of NATO and therefore wont ask a question that will be answered with a "no". But yes, it would be a rather quick end to this, probably for the whole planet.

I understand it is difficult to admit little Vlad fvcked up with this whole war. But the sooner you Putinazi fvcks admit it, and the sooner Russia gets out of Ukraine, the sooner, Russian people will get back to the life they want. Isn't that really whats more important than anything Putin wants? I would think all you brainiacs would start to think of what is best for Russians by now. But hey, those Russian made conversion kits to put Lada engines into Mercedes cars are going to be a big hit in five years.

Novichok
16 May 2023  #48

Only Ukraine is not a part of NATO

Ukraine would not have to ask NATO - just the major countries so NATO would not be officially involved.
Why didn't Ukraine ask or Western Europe along with Poland offer to go to Ukraine and finish the job?
Even without the US, 360 billion bucks vs 60 is 6 times more firepower.

I really don't get it why the West is so timid with that 6 to 1 advantage.

Velund
16 May 2023  #49

I really don't get it why the West is so timid with that 6 to 1 advantage.

12 times more corruption in MIC, so reality is 1 to 2 instead of 6 to 1 ? ;)

PolAmKrakow
16 May 2023  #50

@Novichok
Why hasn't Russia just rolled over all of Ukraine? Why hasnt little Vlad just nuked a few areas? Why hasnt Belarus joined the fight? Why hasnt China or anyone else?

Could it be that everyone is content to slowly bleed Russia?

Novichok
16 May 2023  #51

Could it be that everyone is content to slowly bleed Russia?

This is too cynical. Ukrainians, including babies, are slaughtered in large numbers and the West is going slow?
I would make stopping the war to save Ukrainian lives the top priority.

PolAmKrakow
16 May 2023  #52

@Novichok
I disagree. The civilian death toll has declined quite a bit over the last few months. Ukraine air defenses are taking out most of Russias attacks. I would have agreed with you six months ago, but now, Ukraine people are not being killed like Russian soldiers are.

31 Abrams tanks in Germany now for Ukraine to begin training with. They will likely be the last to enter the war and will do the cleanup of whats left of the Russian tanks.

Velund
16 May 2023  #53

Last night in Kiev it turned out that the Patriot anti-aircraft system can shot down a Dagger missile, only once, and then requires complete replacement together with crew, but it's a success, it's a breakthrough 😂

PolAmKrakow
16 May 2023  #54

@Velund
Looks like you missed all the footage of all the missiles shot down last night. So much for being beyond defensive capability huh?

jon357
16 May 2023  #55

all the missiles shot down last night.

It was spectacular.

No matter what the r*SSians throw at them, it comes to nothing.

And the Storm Shadow missiles and the kamikaze drones have barely started.

When the Challenger II tanks come into use (the orcs have no idea when or where, poor them) their heavy guns will cut through the orc tanks like a knife through the air and nothing the orcs gave can even dent their armour.

johnny reb
16 May 2023  #56

Looks like you missed all the footage of all the missiles shot down last night.

Russian officials must be reeling in utter disbelief after seven of their most sophisticated missiles were blasted out of the sky in an incredible night of drama over Kyiv.

It must be really humiliating for Putin so see his "unstoppable missiles" intercepted and shot down by U.S.A.'s surface to air defense systems.

Novichok
16 May 2023  #57

With a 6 to 1 mil budget advantage, why are the Western European armies not in Ukraine killing Russians?
Including the US, that advantage is 20 to 1. So what's up with that? Waiting for a 100 to 1 or for the last standing Ukrainian to defeat Russia?

Where are the brave Brits, French, Germans and the heroic Poles? Waiting for the next memo from the DC?

intercepted and shot down by U.S.A.'s surface to air defense systems.

With this being the fact, chasing Russia out should be like petting a cat...easy and fun...

So, what's going on? Why are the Russians still in Ukraine? Fu*cking 20 to 1 is still not enough plus the US defense systems?

Crnogorac3
16 May 2023  #58

👍

AMERICAN SPECIAL FORCES "GREEN BERET" MERCENARY NICHOLAS MAIMER LIQUIDATED IN BAKHMUT

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/bCA2BNtfeHMG/

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Novichok
16 May 2023  #59

Hey, C3, can you help me understand what's going on? I hope you read #57 right above.

The widow will be so proud...

PolAmKrakow
16 May 2023  #60

@Crnogorac3
Whats really great about this one instance is that TENS OF THOUSANDS of Wagner mercenaries have died. LMFAO I will take that ratio every day of the week.

When are the Russians going to take Bakhmut again?


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