Poland's aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 13

I'm going to need some source(s) on that

There would be some, but nothing like the current situation. Unfortunately in the west both left and right political establishments are besotted with the idea of mass-migration... using the stupidest arguments on earth and/or ignoring the reality on the ground.
I predict political disruptions in western Europe if things don't change.... I just saw a source that claimed that Sweden has rounded the corner and now more migrants leave than arrive, it's not as far along as Denmark but it's a glimmer of hope.

@Mr Grunwald
It was in the UK, not US where they sent a man to prison for Facebook posts.

@mafketis
If you have been to Stockholm recently, it is a dangerous place. While they are deporting more every day, they are not doing enough. Europe needs to wake up. Dont even think of going to Paris or Marseille. Marseille is more dangerous than Harlem or Times Square was in the 70's, they easily rival the worst of Chicago areas now.

If a madman starts am internet hate campaign against you and threatens you with murder, would you rather have him at large or behind the bars?


No need to now. Thousands of tourists and sport fans have just come back from the Games. In one piece despite your infantile claims.

Because the French deployed all they could to keep azholes under control.

It was a very nice Olympics, definitely one of the best.

U-R war for dummies...

U is illegally occupying the regions that voted to separate from U and join R.

R army is in the regions that are R now.

I wish them success because I believe in the UN rules, international laws, and the principle of self-determination.

If you don't like the principle of self-determination, file a suit somewhere...

U already said they would give them back to R after the war.

@pawian
I normally would not use this phrase here, but you are the biggest fvcking moron on PF and can go suck a bag of dicks. Leftist fvcktard, lots of crime in Paris during the olympics, almost all of it from the scum they let in.

That was nice. Thank you. :):):):)


I prefer pussies. But if you have a taste for dicks yourself, feel free to do what you want with them. Enjoy even two bags!! hahahaha Ale witz!!!

Your stock just doubled.

Did I say how I admire your simple and unambiguous English?


There are weak men, weasels, pussies, slime and then there is pawian - a creep you never shake hands with because you never know what you will get on your skin.

BTW, azhole, learn how to quote...PAK said:

Darling, the content of my quotes is my choice. Ha!!!


Yes, I am still here and kicking. hahahaha


You have mistaken threads, darling!


Do you still shake hands in the US??? Amassing!

@pawian
You the reviver of ancient threads of discussion. Really fvcktard is more descriptive than baboon. Please change your screen name to Fvcktard so we can all appreciate. Anyone calling another man "Darling" is fvcking stupid, gay, or both.

@Novichok
The level of emotional stupidity here is exhausting. Socialists parading as democrats, pure communists parading as equal rights advocates. The lack of intelligence in some is simply astounding. PF should be an enjoyable place with casual banter and fun discussion. Yet, it is simply another example of how far the world is divided, and how far we have to go to fix things.

What is wrong with that, darling? You must know your history well to deal with presence and future, says the proverb of Polish bees. Ha!


What is wrong with that, darling? Live and let live, says the proverb of Polish bees. Ha!


Do you also include Novichok or make an exception for him???? :):):)

I enjoy his and Alien's revival of old threads.


This is no way to speak to the patriarch of PF. Me and Kania have had problems with him, but I would never call him a moron.

Leave Paw alone, and redirect attention to rabid haters like CMS and Korvinus instead. Those guys have animal hate for anything they don't like.

A reader's comment:

The operation in Kursk has cost upwards of 1000 troops and hundreds of armored vehicles including tanks, this offensive is purely sentimental since this doesn't dampen the Russian war machine in the slightest during a time when Russia is progressively advancing along the whole Donbas front.

This offensive wasn't expected because it was stupid, a rebranding of the Belogorod excursion that ended up costing more than it was worth

Certain truths in life are not open to debate:

The moon is closer than the Sun.

Russia will not be defeated by NATO.

Anyone who knows the military objective behind the Kursk invasion please stand up and tell us all about it...

"Deutsche Panzer in Kursk" (now ukrainian Marder at least)....if that doesn't make your historian heart beating faster then nothing will!

Besides....I found that text in a german paper quite reasonable....I quote (lotsa):

.....Ukraine knows that it would lose out in a war of attrition. Quite apart from the unwillingness or fear of many men having to go to war. Quite apart from whether the West helps with money and material or not. A war of attrition requires a level of contempt for humanity that is simply incompatible with a democracy that wants to succeed in the EU with European values. If Ukraine is to survive, it must take control of the Kremlin.....

fr.de/politik/waffen-einschaetzung-russland-ukraine-krieg-angriff-kursk-panzer-offensive-verluste-front-93238579.html

.....What difference can a few hundred square kilometers make in a country that measures more than 17 million square kilometers? Answer: potentially a lot......

.....

....Russia is primarily the part that is most often identified as "European", the part between Belarus and the Urals. But even that is mostly empty. And everything behind the Urals is even emptier. The population centers to the west thus have a strategic importance that cannot be guessed at on maps. The Russian civil wars from 1917 to 1924 showed that small armies with strategic advantages (being offensive is one of them) are able to control much larger areas very quickly and outmaneuver enemy concentrations far away. The infrastructure of that time is of course nothing compared to today, but the distances and the relatively few strategically important centers have remained the same.

The Ukrainian advance will hardly be a "new front," but it certainly has the potential to severely damage the Kremlin's power structure. After the Ukrainian government has repeatedly said that it has no offensive military intentions against Russia - nor can it, given the vast area - an apparent pinprick at Kursk could have further consequences.

(all translation errors are made by Google...mock them!)

The Miracle on the Marne, the Miracle on the Vistula, and the Miracle at Kursk.

Tie up North Nigerian troops, tanks and money

Make them reinforce rest of border

Damage morale of the North Nigerians

Boost own morale

Make Hungary and Slovakia and other Western assets look stupid

Make Putler fire some more generals thus causing more instability

There are a hundred military reasons - last week before this we were hearing how the North Nigerians were advancing at a km per day and would be at the Dnepr by Christmas

it should belong to Poland.

Yes there are some problems with liberal views and things like migration and that needs to be addressed in most Western countries. And there are political policies and solutions that can be implemented.

But its not a solution to become like Russia under an autocracy
You don't " throw the baby out with the bathwater "

Putin wants the Democratic framework of the EU to collapse and he particularly wants former Soviet states to become part of the Russian orbit and influence and they need to be autocracies like Belarus because Putin realizes you cant give citizens a choice to vote for political change because he can't take the risk of losing an election.

So Democracy is anathema to Putin and all similar states like NK, Cuba or Belarus. You only way to guarantee you stay in power is ensure citizens have no basic freedoms like freedom of speech or to be able to vote in free and fair elections.

Putin doesn't want to destroy the EU, he wants its systems of government to fail because then he can say " look Democracy bad, one leader for life much better ".

Only globalist morons say "addressed" when talking about hordes of useless human garbage nobody wants.

Normal people stop the hordes at the border by whatever means - shooting to kill if necessary - just as we do here when dealing with home invasions.

We don't "address" invaders. We kill invaders. Duh!

Is every Polak an imbecile?

That "Nigerian" crap ceased being funny a long time ago.

Try "Russians" for a change to stop acting like a fvcking idiot. Maybe, then, we will read your posts past "Nigerians".

About that general and "jebana swolocz"...

Would that mother fvcker say this to the Red Army as it approached the Polish border?

Or would he say: Welcome, my dear Russian friends. Please don't stop, I beg you! On to Berlin!!!

Give me your best guess, Polish azholes...

I think we changed the names of streets connected to the 9th of May 'victory'. Because for us it wasn't really a victory, just a change of occupant (to a less genocidal, but still murderous).

There may be some streets left in backwater towns but our Institute of National Rememberance is actively going after such names and demands that they are changed.

I think in countries 'liberated' by the Soviets we must strike a proper balance between praising the removal of Hitler's genocidal regime and understanding what this 'liberation' actually meant.

Cut that Polish crap poetry and tell us what you would say to the Red Army at the Polish border:

1. Stop, you "jebana swolocz"?
2. Welcome! Thanks for coming.

1 or 2?

None. Reading this I am reminded of a poem:

Long have we awaited this day
With a restless hope in our souls
When without a word
Comrade Stalin will move arrows on the map with his pipe

One shout ran along the border
Before it died down
The guns thundered
That is the Red Army
Marching to battle
With the force of an avalanche

Their battle trail is marked
With a string of victories
Brings glory to the banner of liberty
Paves the whole Ukraine with heads of the owners
Podolia falls, Volhynia in tribute
The people welcome liberation with the song
Estates and churches burns
And Christ lays with a bullet at the back of the head

Over the battlefield
They shall raise their arms
Into a breathtaking fist
Now is the bastard of Versailles
Wiped completely of the maps
Free is the Jew and the Byelorussian
No more shall the Polish hand coerce them
Pravda professes their new freedom
News like a flash circles the globe
That now on one flag are
The Star, The Hammer, The Sickle and The Eagle

It's a translation of Polish song by our national bard, Jacek Kaczmarski. It is called "September ballad" and is an ironic commentary on the backstabbing of Poland on the 17th of September 1939, when Soviet forces marched in tandem with Hitler. Especially ironic is the phrase about "string of victories" - there were no real victories during the Soviet campaign, because all the major units of the Polish army were engaged in fighting German forces.

One of the main topics of the ballad is the dullness of the Soviet propaganda and the way it brainwashed ordinary Soviet citizens.

Starting on June 1, 1945...

Did the Red Army deliberately cause physical harm to you or anyone in your immediate family as a result of the government policy? A drunk Russian doesn't count.

DO NOT say: Not me personally, but...

If this is your response, shove it up your ass...