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UK Ambassador Confirms Russia being set up by US/UK. 'Poisoning' a fabrication


Slavictor
22 Mar 2018  #1

UK Ambassador Craig Murray:

"OPCW [Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] inspectors have had full access to all known Russian chemical weapons facilities for over a decade - including those identified by the "Novichok" alleged whistleblower Mirzayanov - and last year OPCW inspectors completed the destruction of the last of 40,000 tonnes of Russian chemical weapons."

The British have refused to comply with established procedures with Russia on matters such as these and refuse to produce any evidence of what the British allege to have occurred. The response from the US and French embassy representatives was simply to state that they needed no evidence to stand in solidarity with their British friends.

The small group of maniacs (who control the USA, UK, France, Germany) want to attack Russia with nuclear missiles with a pre-emptive strike. Why mention it in a Polish forum? Poland does what the USA wants. Poland hosts a foreign army, the USA's, and also it's NATO ABM Missile systems. This means in the event of western aggression against Russia (i.e an unprovoked and malicious attack), as an "ally" of the USA, Poland will be repaid for that relationship by experiencing incineration approximately 20 minutes before the USA does. I thought that kind of important, so I thought to share.

Poland out of NATO and EU, now.
spiritus
22 Mar 2018  #2

[Moved from]: Recent poisonings of Russians in the UK........

Could this perhaps open up the possibility that Putin could have been behind Smolensk after all ?

Don't get me wrong, Kaczynski is an idiot who spouts all kinds of garbage but just because he's the one spouting the conspiracy theory doesn't mean we should dismiss it out of hand.

Up until last week I had never really considered the possibility but a slither of doubt has now entered my mind as I see how Putin does what he wants when he wants
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #3

I have believed The Russians were behind Smolensk from day one.
It's just the way the Russian state has always done things.
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #4

Slavictor - The small group of maniacs (who control the USA, UK, France, Germany) want to attack Russia with nuclear missiles with a pre-emptive strike

What utter drivel......................

You must be Russian.
mafketis
22 Mar 2018  #5

Putin could have been behind Smolensk after all ?

My position is that Russia/Putin would certainly be _capable_ of carrying out something like Smolensk (given their terrible record at everything but crime and killing people) but none of the evidence really points to that being the case here and all the evidence actually points the other way.... a dumb accident on a dumb trip planned for no other reason than party squabbles...

wprost.pl/kraj/10112154/ustalenia-tok-fm-wedlug-bieglych-nie-ma-dowodow-na-zamach-w-smolensku.html

On the other hand, Russia has been poisoning "traitors" to the Russian crime state since the 1920s, it's an established MO for them (remember Litvenko? Juszczenko?)
Crow
22 Mar 2018  #6

People, what is only obvious thing is that Britain provoke war with Russia. On many meridians. Knowing Russians and their nerves, that`s not wise. Why would British politicians want to do that, I don`t know. Maybe they are sick maniacs, some death cultists who hate British population.

In any case, if I`m Polish who live and work on that forsaken island, I would activate my plan `B`. That would be to pack my things and go enough far from Britain.
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #7

Crow - People, what is only obvious thing is that Britain provoke war with Russia.

Don't be daft.There won't be a military war.It will be a financial war.
And The Russians will lose.
Crow
22 Mar 2018  #8

War is war. Its clear that Britain moving hostile. On many examples.
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #9

This report comes from Sky News dated 3 Feb 2018.

news.sky.com/story/smolensk-crash-explosions-on-board-before-plane-hit-ground-investigator-says-11233792
mafketis
22 Mar 2018  #10

from Sky News

Not impressed...

newsweek.pl/polska/frank-taylor-i-podkomisja-smolenska-kim-jest-frank-taylor-od-macierewicza-,artykuly,397037,1.html

Another source suggests he has bombs on the brain, hindering an investigation in Italy with his bomb fixation.
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #11

mafketis - Not impressed...

That's very interesting because there is tons of stuff that backs him up.

aviationweek.com/awin/frank-taylor

manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/manchester-air-disaster-30-years-9889536

smolenskcrash.eu/news-147-the-smolensk-subcommittee-there-was-an-internal-explosion-on-board-the-tu-154m.html#.WrOCe2rFLcs

Why would Polish Newsweek lie?
jon357
22 Mar 2018  #12

What utter drivel......................

Drivel of the highest order.

Even the thread title is a heap of bullsh1t...

There's a wonderful video been produced (by the Foreign Office) showing 17 (yes 17) different excuses by Russia for their attack. All of them silly. They even tried to blame Sweden, and Julia Skripal's mother-in-law!
Zen7777
22 Mar 2018  #13

Here is a list of some of the things he has done.

podkomisjasmolensk.mon.gov.pl/plik/file/A_Frank_Taylor_-_Accidents_investigation_experience.pdf

The man is clearly an expert.
Crow
22 Mar 2018  #14

British politicians are insane.
jon357
22 Mar 2018  #15

Takes one to know one Crowie...
Crow
22 Mar 2018  #16

Capability. Difference is that British politicians do have capacity to fully exploit their insanity. Their obvious insane desire to exterminate British population.
spiritus
22 Mar 2018  #17

Please will you stop going off topic ?
Crow
22 Mar 2018  #18

But we are in off-topic. But even so, I always writes on topic, even in off-topic. I am unique example of this forum.
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #19

Laughing my head off!!!

The Ruskis can be hilarious.I heard one of their apologists on the radio the other day suggesting it was The British Government that did it!
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #20

I'm more interested to know why Polish Newsweek lied about Frank Taylor.
delphiandomine
22 Mar 2018  #21

The man is clearly an expert.

In fact, he isn't. He has no knowledge of the Tu-154M or Russian aircraft in general (and there are some pretty major differences in design philosophy compared to Western designs, particularly in respect to the behaviour of the plane in various situations such as TOGA), and he has almost no experience on accident investigation commissions. He has history for making up strange claims about explosions, and serves as a very useful puppet for Macierewicz due to his willingness to say things for publicity.

Has Mr. Taylor been to visit the wreck? No? There's your answer.

I have believed The Russians were behind Smolensk from day one.

Mirosławiec and Jan Heweliusz would like to have a word with you.
Slavictor
22 Mar 2018  #22

The West will do anything to demonize Russia at this point, something it has continued to do for a long time. This includes American vassal states like the UK and France. The individuals who control and write American foreign policy have decided Russia needs to be brought to it's knees. Russia stands in the way of the objectives of these individuals. Since Russia will not willingly do this, the individuals have concluded a nuclear first strike against it is in order. Unfortunately, nuclear war is not winnable. I say unfortunately because the individuals with launch capability don't believe or realize this. They have the benefit of retreat and respite to COG facilities like Iron Mountain, while all other life on planet Earth doesn't. They are not concerned with life on Earth, just their objectives. If Poland intends to survive vaporization, removing itself from NATO and the U.S. ABM bases there would be a start (to make it no longer a target).
Crow
22 Mar 2018  #23

From time to time Russia purifies Europe. After Napoleon, after Hitler and now maybe again after Theresa May. All is in Russian nerves. Strange people. You never know but again, you know with certainty.
Slavictor
22 Mar 2018  #24

Hi Spiritus, I just begun a similar parallel thread you may wish to visit.
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #25

I am new to this forum but I'm starting to work out who the Socialist,Communist and Russian trolls are......but if anyone would care to help me,please PM me.......some of you seem to have been on here for quite a while.Any advice will be much appreciated!
Crow
22 Mar 2018  #26

Man, don`t burn your brain on those things. Russian trolls are decent people in comparison to all that coming from western side of Europe.
Miloslaw
22 Mar 2018  #27

You are funny Crow!! :-)
Velund
23 Mar 2018  #28

From time to time Russia purifies Europe. After Napoleon, after Hitler and now maybe again after Theresa May. All is in Russian nerves. Strange people.

Yeah. We have a joke here... Smth about freedom-loving european nations, that have a interesting tradition. Once in a century they is united by some leader that found a REALLY GOOD REASON to finally conquer Russia. And it is always ended with a good f*ckup and russian soldiers marching in european capitals. ;)

Last attempt was in 1941, but world changes and processes is now faster than before. So, maybe it is just time that come for routine century f*ckup? ;)
Slavictor
23 Mar 2018  #29

You must be Russian.

Not a chance
Crow
23 Mar 2018  #30

@Velund

True. Why would we just imagine how hell looks like. Why not have it on Earth ;)

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