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UK Ambassador Confirms Russia being set up by US/UK. 'Poisoning' a fabrication


johnny reb
18 Jun 2018  #211

I know that everything these bastards in the DC say is one big f****** lie.

Hey ya can always give Moscow a try and see if things are better there.
Your paycheck comes from there, according to you, so you may as well live there too.
Send us all a postcard when you get there so we know you arrived safe as you won't be allowed to post here anymore because of Russia's anti internet freedoms.
Velund
18 Jun 2018  #212

ROTFL ))))))))

But, let's see what will happen after it will be proven that Telegram messenger was used as a main secure communication media by terrorist in a massive attack somewhere in US.

I dropped coin on US map in a world atlas and Bay Area become covered... So bad, I have a number of friends there...
johnny reb
18 Jun 2018  #213

Keep in mind that American males life expectancy is 11-12 years longer than Russian males.
jon357
18 Jun 2018  #214

An economy the size of Australia's, massively rigged elections, corruption being the rule rather than the exception, invading two neighbouring countries, murdering the regime's opponents and poisoning dissidents abroad.

Not exactly a Utopia, is it...
Rich Mazur
19 Jun 2018  #215

According to the Polish stats, I was burried 3 years ago. Russians die often and soon because they drink too much, not because there is something inherently wrong with the Russians or Russia.
Rich Mazur
19 Jun 2018  #216

(Russia)... invading two neighbouring countries,

Let's stipulate that it's true. To judge Russia, you would have to know everything Kremlin knew at the time the decision was made. You know nothing.

Secondly, invading two neighbouring countries can be justified a lot easier as a strategic and necessary move, as opposed to, say, countries that are 7000 miles or so away.

Let's see what those might be, hmm...Yeah, I got it! Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Serbia, Kuwait, Iraq, and Syria. Those Russians are soooo terrible.

Ooops, sorry, it was the US.
jon357
19 Jun 2018  #217

To judge Russia, you would have to know everything Kremlin knew at the time

No you wouldn't.. you would simply need the publicly available evidence, that they invaded Georgia and Ukraine.

Secondly, invading two neighbouring countries can be justified a lot easier

No it can't; both were illegal invasions and are regarded as such by the international community.
Crow
19 Jun 2018  #218

I still believe that England have to spend few years as Russia`s gubernia. It would do good to English soul.
Velund
19 Jun 2018  #219

you would simply need the publicly available evidence, that they invaded Georgia and Ukraine.

And you plan to show us that evidence? I mean real evidence, not some BS starting from "everyone know"...

Can you prove that Russia was first attacking side in 2008? Any proofs that any russian troops participated in conflict in Donbass?
Rich Mazur
19 Jun 2018  #220

No you wouldn't.. you would simply need the publicly available evidence, that they invaded Georgia and Ukraine.

Let's say Russia did invade both. Only a shallow moron not responsible for anything would dismiss why. Russia, as any other country, does not have play soldiers and play money to throw around because it's fun. Until you show me the true and criminal reasons for those invasions, I will assume that Russia had very good reasons for both.

BTW, how did you like those WMD's in Iraq? How many trillions and dead people were spent chasing that ghost?
Ironside
19 Jun 2018  #221

I will assume that Russia had very good reasons for both.

I'm sure that had a very good reasons ..like always. The thing is Russia good reasons are not good enough for a country which a main policy for the last 400 years or so had been an armed conquest of everything they could get away with. It is not as if they had not enough land. I think that are still the largest country in the world if it comes to its territory or a second large....whatever.... with the economy comparable to the Dutch economy.

Russia is punching above its way in military and is able to keep it up financially by selling crude ores. It a very primitive policy, they like to pose sometime as a third Rome, in fact the ancient Rome was a way too to sophisticated for Russia, they are Assyrian style empire.
Velund
19 Jun 2018  #222

But why all that butthurt around? Very primitive country, with almost negligible economy, compared to a economical giants like Denmark... Why all anglo's ******** feel yourself in fire then?
Rich Mazur
19 Jun 2018  #223

a country which a main policy for the last 400 years or so had been an armed conquest of everything they could get away with.

You mean like what happened to the Indians?

Were the US reasons to attack Iraq "good" reasons? How about Vietnam? How about an illegal US presence in Syria?

You do realize that the Russians are in Syria legally and the US is not, right?

Man, it's too easy.
Ironside
19 Jun 2018  #224

But why all that butthurt around?

You presume much. Is not a butt hurt. A civilized cultured person mugged on the street by a thug whose only attributes are muscles and ruthlessness enhanced by his time in prison. Otherwise is a good for nothing layout. I would call it indignation nothing more.

Why all anglo's ******** feel yourself in fire then?

Nah, its call putting pressure on Russia. A country that doesn't play by the rules but plays like a thug by kicking the table if it cannot win.

ou mean like what happened to the Indians?

No, I mean like in the anthill. You see something that is not from anthill you attack. It works for ants it doesn't work for Russia if attack and military is the only thing that works and all the rest is crappy at best or distant fourth.

USA had ( now they export that neo-Marxist BS ) something to offer beside military, a culture, a wealth for the masses not only elites, system of relatively fair legal system, freedom of speech, a level playfield and so on .....

Russia offers nothing to the people, wealth for chosen few and a stagnant corrupt environment.
Rich Mazur
19 Jun 2018  #225

I am not going to argue that except that it is internal to Russia. They seem to be happy judging by lack of riots and how they vote. I am assuming - maybe wrongly - that their voting system is no more corrupt than here with the dead and the illegals showing up at the voting places. And Hillary with her super delegates and Bernie to show how our un-corrupt system should be a model to follow.

Some in the West are shocked by a Russian having Polonium for lunch. That is how the KGB operates dealing with ex-KGB wiseguys operating from the safety of a foreign country and bad mouthing Russia. He knew KGB methods, couldn't keep his mouth shut so he died slowly and painfully for all to see. Message sent and received.

On some level, I am impressed. Luckily for us, the CIA was always running clean operations. (That was sarcasm, trolls.)
jon357
20 Jun 2018  #226

And you plan to show us that evidence?

No need. It's all in the public domain. One of the many reasons that the former superpower is now an increasingly obscure and marginalised pariah state.

compared to a economical giants like Denmar

'Economical'? Do you mean they're cutting costs or do you mean "economic"? In either sense, they aren't a 'giant'. Nor is Russia, which has an African style economy based on selling what's under the ground. Nobody wants their manufactured products, such as they are.
Velund
20 Jun 2018  #227

No need. It's all in the public domain.

So, you have no real proofs, just trying to feed another form of "everyone knows" BS?.

Nobody wants their manufactured products, such as they are.

I'm sure, that at least NATO pilots does not want their manufacturer products. ;) Not sure about the rest of people.

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