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UK Ambassador Confirms Russia being set up by US/UK. 'Poisoning' a fabrication


Velund
4 May 2018  #181

Except for Poles who left Poland since 2004 for economic reasons,the rest ALL left to escape Russian oppression!!

Sometime in the past, I read a book about polish emigration before WW-II. Written by polish scientist, of course. And she written about pre-1918 period, that "emigration from Austrian zone was mainly due to political reasons, unlike emigration from poorer Russian zone" (not exactly in that words, but close to).

In 1930's - again, quite a lot of emigration. No Russian oppression anymore, by default, but people flee. Maybe it was just polish Jews, fleeing from polish oppression?
Ironside
4 May 2018  #182

hat Poles is much more sane and reasonable than most of "armchair warriors" from diaspora,

Sadly it cannot be said about consecutive Russian gov. with a notable exception of Yeltsin.
Velund
4 May 2018  #183

Hm, I understand that "constantly drunk" president is preferred in some cases. ;) Just like modern day ukrainian "leader", that sign almost anything that put by someone to their table. ;) Also, it is easy to negotiate "deals of the century" - few extra shots of vodka and diplomatic breaktrough is guaranteed.
jon357
5 May 2018  #184

It's not meant to fool anybody but the eternally gullible and bovine Russian public.

Even they only half believe the crap that they're fed.

Sadly it cannot be said about consecutive Russian gov

I can't think of any Russian administration in history that has not been toxic.
Ironside
5 May 2018  #185

I understand that "constantly drunk"

Oh come on, you're pulling my pretzel now. IF in Russia who imbibe vodka in a large quantities would have been a decisive factor as to who is fit for the office (or any job whatsoever) YOU wouldn't be able to fill any post whatsoever.

Yeltsin was a good president for a democratic Russia. Whereas an imperial, authoritarian Russia needed someone completely different.
gregy741
6 May 2018  #186

Yeltsin was a good president for a democratic Russia

sure he was good,not for Russian people though.
he was certainly good for jewish oligarchs,mafia and american thieves.as for Russian vodka problem ,you mention ,this problem can easily be connected to his leadership period
Velund
6 May 2018  #187

Yeltsin was a good president for a democratic Russia.

But russian people do not want such sort of "democracy" anymore.

There is much more chances for Putin to be elected as a Tsar of reestablished monarchy (constitutional monarchy this time) than someone like Yeltsin for a president again.
jon357
6 May 2018  #188

YOU wouldn't be able to fill any post whatsoever.

Excellent, I-S!

Yeltsin was a good president

He was certainly one of the less criminally insane and meglomaniac ones they've had.
Ironside
6 May 2018  #189

But russian people do not want such sort of "democracy" anymore.

Well, the world doesn't want or need such a 'country' like Russia.
gregy741
6 May 2018  #190

the world need Russia now,more than ever before .
need to help replacing degenerated and filthy anglosaxon hegemony.once and for good.
jon357
6 May 2018  #191

Well, the world doesn't want or need such a 'country' like Russia.

Yes. It certainly doesn't need their constant attempts to destabilise democracy in Poland and elsewhere.
Ironside
6 May 2018  #192

need to help replacing degenerated anglosaxon hegemony.once and for good.

To replace with a corrupted tyrannical, primitive, inept, inefficient and oppressive regime? No, thank you.
Velund
6 May 2018  #193

Well, the world doesn't want or need such a 'country' like Russia.

Unfortunately (for the so called "the world" of a few english-speaking countries and their numerous pets), Russia does not have any plans to disappear or dissolve in a thin air.

Attempt to set up a so called "democratic government" that will totally destroy economy and later will help to break country to a Lithuania-sized pieces that can be not taken into account at all in a international affairs is failed miserably. There will be no second chance.
jon357
6 May 2018  #194

Well, the world doesn't want or need such a 'country' like Russia.

Fortunately most of their endeavours fail, and the rest of the world is very aware of the dangers of allowing them to operate unchecked.

A real shame they still have a place on the UN Security Council; this should have ended the day the Soviet Union collapsed.
gregy741
6 May 2018  #195

Fortunately most of their endeavours fail,

not really.
they bitchslap americans left and right.
got free Crimea,empowered Iran ,Syria and Hezbollah in the middle east. US loosing it foothold in Iraq.all they have left in Iraq and Syria are kurds and Al-Qaeda in Idlib

antagonized Turkey -second most powerful NATO member -against US.
funny to watch ,how US cry and kick and whine,sometimes forging "chemical" attacks,the other time begging to create "arab army" to protect their resource stealing operations in Syria. lol
jon357
6 May 2018  #196

they bitchslap americans left and right.

No they don't. The rest of the world just watches and makes sure the damage they do is contained.

free Crimea

It's less free than it was before they illegally invaded it.

sometimes forging "chemical" attacks

Hahaha
gregy741
6 May 2018  #197

soon Iran and Hezbollah get their bases with "new,smart shiny missiles"next to golan heights..we see if you still be laughing..haha
jon357
6 May 2018  #198

soon Iran and Hezbollah

Even they are not that stupid...
gregy741
6 May 2018  #199

if i was Putin,i would say to US:
"you wanna proxy war? i will give you a proxy war" and then give nukes to Iran and Hezbollah and then ordered popcorn. hahaha
i bet ,Palestinians would get their own country in no time..haha
stupid US should really thank God every dat that Russia has such understanding and patient leader. one day they will miss Putin.
jon357
6 May 2018  #200

proxy war

Everyone knows Putin is trying to carry out a proxy war, and of course failing miserably, hence all his dirty tricks elsewhere.

I wouldn't be that surprised if one day he ends up in a cell in The Hague.
Slavictor
7 May 2018  #201

These Skripals can't be found. Where are they.
jon357
8 May 2018  #202

These Skripals

"These"???

Where are they.

Why would you need to know?
Ironside
8 May 2018  #203

Attempt to set up a so called "democratic government" that will totally destroy economy and later will help to break country to a Lithuania-sized pieces

That is Russian paranoia speaking. BY the way I said the world doesn't need imperialistic- expansive, paranoid, oppressive and generally crappy Russia, plenty of shitholes like that on the glob. By the way 'size' doesn't matter THAT much, it matters but not that much. I haven't said anything about disappearing. How about transforming into something livable.

Being a paranoid is a necessity for an educated Russian it is Something you justify to yourself inefficiency of your economy, a primitive oppressiveness and omnipotence of your system of grovemnat and general crappies of your institution as well as lack of any real societal cohesion.

So stand to reason you need to justify to yourselves somehow a fact that you waste so much money and even more spend on arms. THEY are out there to get us.
TheWizard
8 May 2018  #204

Am i the only one who doesn't care at all about the whole uk spy thing?
Slavictor
8 May 2018  #205

Am i the only one

No, you are far from alone. And that is why we have the kinds of problems nations face today.
jon357
8 May 2018  #206

That is Russian paranoia speaking

Yes. Paranoia is one way they bolster support for their regimes at a domestic level.

A chemical weapons attack in Europe was however a step too far, as they have found to their cost.
Velund
8 May 2018  #207

How about transforming into something livable.

It is now MUCH more safe and livable than under Yeltsin, and far more comfortable compared to even the best of Brezhnev times. ;) And progresses in a right direction (my friend and colleague from sweden who live near me confirms this as well - he told that it become more and more like old Sweden, without all this sodomitic madness and multi-culti).

Putin is very liberal dictator, and slowly but surely lead Russia to become quite a nice place to live. I know that it cause a severe butthurt for many people abroad, but this is not a problem of Russians. They elect president of Russia comfortable for Russians, comfort of asses of citizens of another countries is out of question.

While choosing between two variants - purchasing an apartments in Catalonia, or apartments in suburbs of Moscow and later some small cabin on southern Tenerife for vacations, I choosed variant with two bedroom apartments near Moscow (around 3 km from nearest metro station). Plenty of work, compared to Spain, with comparable average living level (lower income but lower prices on most things needed in everyday life, not about restaurants though, and the only real problem is a nasty weather during winter).

So, been there, seen that.
gregy741
31 May 2018  #208

A chemical weapons attack in Europe was however a step too far, as they have found to their cost.

add to this this,the horrible murder of Russian journalist in Kiev recently,ordered by Putin himself.... Babchenko was name of this poor soul.
oo wait.....wut da hell happened?
Velund
31 May 2018  #209

Babchenko was name of this poor soul.

Yeah, one day of fame as dead hero... And a rest of life as a sh*thead... ;)
Rich Mazur
18 Jun 2018  #210

Russia may be forced some Poles to emigrate in the past, but vast majority is followed the money.

Great posts! That's exactly why I and many of my friends left Poland in 1966 and later. We never felt "oppressed". We just didn't want to wait 20 years for our own apartments.

After 50 years in the US, I know that everything these bastards in the DC say is one big f****** lie. From the CIA, the FBI, Department of State, Departrment of Labor, to the White House, Congress, and the Social Security Administration lying about the "assets". Everything.

Congratulations on your extensive and reasonable writing. Don't get discouraged by the poodles nibbling on your ankles.

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